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1. Isis the Chrest – Valuable. Complicated.
   I noticed that this article of Acharya’s recieved -0- comments.

   So I decided to spend a few hours tonight – 7-10 pm – reading thru her “Isis the Chrest” article along with many of its links and references. It’s a tough one because it refers to so many unfamiliar languages – Greek, Latin, etc. But Acharya’s explanations of special words provided me with valuable information I can use when debating with, or explaining to, a person who stubbornly insists that a some early writers mentioned Jesus in their writings.

   The part that I find to be the toughest when debating people on the Jesus historicity issue is attempting to explain that there were no writers who wrote about Jesus at the time that Jesus is said to have lived. Adamant Christians either can’t believe that or they insist that the Apostles, Josephus and Suetonius lived during Jesus’ time and wrote about him.

   The ancient languages and advanced scholarship used by Acharya within her article is alien and difficult for me to remember three months from today while I try to debate someone on this issue. Many of Acharya’s other readers might feel the same as me. That may be why there were no comments on the article. The article is pretty tough to deal with.

   But after reading the article and many of its links and references, I noticed a pattern in Acharya’s writing style. Her last one or two paragraphs of each article are excellent simplified summaries of the entire article. That may be a common style with most writers. But Acharya uses this method nicely by combining it with a simplification of terms and details. So the next time I’m debating someone about Jesus’ historicity, I can think about those last two paragraphs in each of her articles. Better yet I can print the articles and then, instead of carrying the entire articles with me, I can cut off and carry just the last two paragraphs.

   In fact, I suggest reading the last two paragraphs first; then go back and start reading from the beginning.

   What I’ve done below is list the main article along with three of the links that were contained within that main article.

   Then, under each link, I’ve provided quotes of the last one or two paragraphs of each article. Those last two paragraphs of each article provide the reader who’s totally freaked out by the complexity of its content with a comfortable summary of the entire article.

   By the way, I’m not suggesting that Acharya simplify the content of her articles for the convenience of all her readers. That would be wrong because those intricate, complicated details and ancient languages are essential to Acharya’s articles especially because there are scholars just as advanced as Acharya who are reading them; and I’m sure they don’t want to read kindergarten level articles. Using words like Ross Perot’s, I just say – Those advanced scholars are high priority for Acharya. At the same time Acharya needs us all to be tuned in to her news.

   That’s a valuable article but it’s a tough one. Try my idea. It might help you to enjoy Acharya’s tougher articles. Then articles like this one, which I’d think are more difficult to write, will get more comments.
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   http://www.truthbeknown.com/isis-the-chrest.html ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/isis-the-chrest.html[/url])
   Isis the Chrēst

   LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS:
   The Greek word chrestos was popular as an epithet or on epitaphs at various Egyptian funerary sites as at Alexandria and elsewhere. This fact too suggests that the Lord of the Underworld and Afterlife, Osiris, the Good God, like his wife, Isis Chreste, may have been likewise deemed Chrestos.

   The Egyptian Houses of Goodness

   The popular Egyptian term nfr or nefer, meaning “pleasant,” “beautiful,” “good,” “excellent” and “gracious,” comparable to chrestos, is designated by the hieroglyph of a cross (trachea) with a heart at the bottom (F35). Interestingly, this fascinating symbol, which looks like the sacred heart of Jesus, appears over Egyptian “Houses of Goodness” or “Houses of Chrest,” so to speak, that resemble churches.
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   http://www.truthbeknown.com/chrestes-oracle.html ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/chrestes-oracle.html[/url])
   Chrestes as Oracle

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   The pre-Christian Chrestians were apparently involved in the business of divination, religious proselytizing and oracle readings, decades to centuries before Jesus supposedly walked the earth. It was not very difficult eventually to change the cult of “the Good” into that of “the Anointed,” with the eventual introduction of a fictional composite presented as a “historical founder” who purportedly lived many decades earlier.
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   http://www.truthbeknown.com/suetoniuschresto.html ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/suetoniuschresto.html[/url])
   Is Suetonius’s Chresto a Reference to Jesus?

   LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS:
   Moreover, the fact that Suetonius called Chresto’s followers “Judeans” or “Jews,” rather than associating them with the “Christians” or, perhaps, “Chrestians ” of his Nero passage, tends to negate the idea that the Roman historian is referring to a historical “Jesus Christ.” The evidence points, rather, to another individual or, more likely, their tribal god, Yahweh the Good, as the “Chresto” of Suetonius’s Jews.

   In summary, the “Chrest” under whose instigation at Rome the Jews were revolting could have been their Lord God, called “the Good” or chrestos in the Old Testament. No “historical Jesus of Nazareth” would be needed, and we may retire this purported Suetonian “proof” from Christian apologetics.
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   http://www.truthbeknown.com/suetoniusmanuscripts.html ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/suetoniusmanuscripts.html[/url])
   Chresto in the Suetonius Manuscript Tradition

   LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS:
   Here we discover that another “proof text” used by Christian apologists, that of the Roman historian Tacitus’s Annales 15:44 (c. 116 AD/CE?), refers not to “Christians” but to “Chrestians,” an important distinction, since it is demonstrable that “Chrestians” existed before the creation of Christianity. Just as “Chrestians” was morphed into “Christian,” so too did “Chresto” become “Christo” or “Christ.”

   Moreover, the sloppiness of the scribes copying the Suetonian text, as if they were oblivious to its importance serves as further indication that this sentence was not believe to represent Christ.

   1. Hey Jon –

      Thanks for the insightful analysis. I try to simplify everything so everyone can understand it. That’s why I link to so many other articles, including dictionary definitions and etymologies.

      In the meantime, you don’t need to remember everything I’ve written! I certainly don’t remember everything I’ve read or written.

      Feel free to link to and quote my various articles, instead of attempting to reproduce the arguments.

      1. Jesus is combination
         Respected Madam,

         TRUE

         Existence of Jesus Christ is a myth created for personal benefit.

         The concept was copied NOT from ISIS CHREST ONLY BUT also many others.

         [b]Another Egyptian GOD: Horus – the SUN GOD[/b]

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljRKhZ81aqY

         [b]Indian GOD: Isha Krishna (Lord Krishna)[/b]

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avMk–tmtuM

         [b]Persian GOD: Mithra – offspring of SUN GOD[/b]

         http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html

         [b]Christianity is not the way of Christ, it is way of Church[/b]

         http://www.hitxp.com/articles/history/christmas-history-christ-birth-date/

         So, it is logical to conclude that something went seriously wrong with Middle Eastern who gave a myth called Christianity. {Sorry, I donot feel to offend you}

         1. Thank you.

            Why would you offend me when it is my work in significant part that you are posting about?

            See my Christ myth articles .

            In addition to these many articles, blog posts, videos, radio programs and so on, I have written several books, including The Christ Conspiracy, Suns of God and Christ in Egypt, that demonstrate the parallels between the Jesus figure and these many other gods and goddesses of the Mediterranean and beyond. These books are listed at the right on this very blog.

2. This issue of Christos and Chrestos is so important and extremely significant to the case against the historical Jesus. I’d like to compile as many of the relevant links from the forum as possible for ease of convenience:

   Is Suetonius’s Chresto a Reference to Jesus? ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/suetoniuschresto.html[/url])

   Chresto in the Suetonius Manuscript Tradition ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/suetoniusmanuscripts.html[/url])

   Chrestos Magical Cup? ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/chrestos-magical-bowl.html[/url])

   Does Suetonius refer to Jesus? ([url]http://www.freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/676-does-suetonius-refer-to-jesus.html[/url])

   Isis the Chrest ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/isis-the-chrest.html[/url])

   Apollo the Chrest? God of Oracles and Son of God ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/apollo-chrest.html[/url]) (Apollo, Son of God and the Chrest?)

   Christos or Chrestos? ([url]http://freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=3900[/url])

   Archeologist finds a 50 BCE cup with the word “Christ” ([url]http://freethoughtnation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=2274[/url])

   A study on the Tacitus manuscript under ultraviolet light reveals that an “i” has been overwritten on an “e” in the word chrestos ([url]http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/josephus-etal.html#chrestos[/url])

   The sources of CHRESTOS and CHRISTOS in Antiquity ([url]http://www.mountainman.com.au/essenes/chrestos%20christos.htm[/url])

   Chrestos: a religious epithet; its import and influence ([url]http://books.google.com/books/about/Chrestos_a_religious_epithet_its_import.html?id=9QcDAAAAQAAJ[/url])

   Chrestians before Christians? An Old Inscription Revisited ([url]http://www.textexcavation.com/documents/zarachrestianinscription.pdf[/url])

   Isis the Chrēst ([url]http://www.truthbeknown.com/isis-the-chrest.html[/url])

3. I kind of agree, but nevertheless there are still lots of interesting and intriguing issues in the “gospels “. In the book of revelation too.No other scripture in the world mention ,”the mark of the beast ” and only fools can deny its imminent implementation.

   1. Thank you.

      The “mark of the beast” or number 666 (or 616, depending on the biblical text) belongs to the pre-Abrahamic goddess-worshipping cultures in particular. This number, in fact, represents the goddess, so it is not exclusive to the Bible. In this regard, the biblical “beast” doctrine is simply a misogynistic calumny against the Goddess.

      Also, there appears to be some data concerning the mark/number 666 in Egyptian mythology. Try perusing the writings of Gerald Massey ([url]https://www.google.com/search?q=%22mark+of+the+beast%22+gerald+massey&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1#q=inauthor%3A%22Gerald+Massey%22+666&tbm=bks[/url]) for more insight about that source of 666.

      Where is the mark of the beast being implemented? Many years ago, the Christian evangelist movement claimed it was the bar code, but that hysteria flap passed long ago.

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