Jesus Christ, avatar of the Age of Pisces?
There is growing debate about whether or not Jesus Christ was a real historical person as described in the gospels. The “Christ Myth Theory” suggests the Jesus story was invented, based on other deities around the Mediterranean, including many that were largely solar in nature. Here I, Robert Tulip, explain how observation of a visible movement of the stars known as the precession of the equinoxes could have been used to make Jesus the imaginary founder of the zodiacal Age of Pisces. In her books on Jesus mythicism, D.M. Murdock aka “Acharya S” has discussed this precession theory in some depth. There is much more to do to develop this cosmic vision as a persuasive scientific hypothesis for how the church got started.
What is precession of the equinoxes?
The word “equinox” means “equal night” and refers to the two times of the year when the days and nights are approximately the same length, generally March 20th and September 22nd. Precession of the equinoxes is explained by astronomy as due to the wobble of the axis of the earth. It is a very slow process, moving the equinoxes by just one degree of sky per human lifetime. Precession was measured by Greek scientists more than a century before the time of Jesus, and was probably known even earlier by astronomers in Egypt, Babylon, India and Central America.
In the last 2,000 years, the equinoxes have precessed against the zodiac stars by almost one sign. According to my calculations, in 21 AD/CE, around the alleged time of Jesus, the spring point – known as the “first point of Aries” – shifted out of the constellation of Aries and into the constellation of Pisces. This event exemplifies the precession of the equinoxes and is arguably the basis of the Christ myth, the cosmic observation subsequently “brought down to earth” in the fable of Jesus of Nazareth. (Editor’s note: Other calculations place the starting date of Pisces at other times, such as during the first and second centuries BCE.)
Jesus as mythical milestone
Traditional astrology sees Aries as the first sign and Pisces as the last sign. From this system, the time of Jesus marked the end of a previous “Great Year” of 25,800 years and the start of a new Great Year, when the equinox shifted back from the sign of the “first” zodiac age, Aries, to the “last” zodiac age, Pisces. Do you see the resemblance with the Christ myth? Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega, the first and last (Rev 22:13), Aries and Pisces. He is the sacrificial Lamb of God (end of Age of Aries) and the Fisher of Men (dawn of the age of Pisces). His symbol is ICHTHYS or fish, and he calls to him “fishers of men” as his disciples. His communion food is designated as fish, when he asks for as much after his resurrection (Jn 21). His early Christian followers were called the “little fishes” and represented by two fishes – a symbol for Pisces.
In fact, the fish became a “primary symbol” of Christianity, concerning which Christian art historian Dr. Charles R. Morey remarks in an article entitled, “The Origin of the Fish-Symbol’ (Princeton Theological Review 8.93):
[The Fish] almost always clearly represents Christ, though sometimes standing for the Christian, and its history can be traced from its appearance in the second century down to the fourth, when it begins gradually to disappear on Christian monuments….
All of this mythical symbolism indicates that Jesus Christ was invented to symbolize the movement of the sky at the dawn of the Age of Pisces.
“…Jesus Christ was invented to symbolize the movement of the sky at the dawn of the Age of Pisces.”
There is much more in the Bible to build on this cosmic framework as a coherent and compelling story about the real meaning of Christianity. In order to arrive at the real origins of Christianity, we need to exclude everything supernatural, in order to provide a natural scientific explanation. That accomplishment is difficult to do since the conventional religious stories are based on magical ideas that have a strong cultural hold.
No ‘historical’ Jesus?
People often say the Jesus story is based on history. As part of the solar mythology and astrotheology incorporated into the gospel story, the precession framework shows why that claim is wrong, as the gospel authors evidently wanted to explain how the slow movement of time visible in the heavens was reflected on earth. As it says in the Lords Prayer: “Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven,” in this case interpretable as referring to the fictional story of Jesus modelled on what we can see in the sky. It is also said, “As above, so below.”
There are many more miraculous and supernatural Bible stories that begin to make sense when we put them in the framework of precession. The loaves-and-fishes miracle in the gospel story (Mt 14:13-21; Mk 6:31-44; Lk 9:10-17; Jn 6:5-15) evidently represents the new abundance from the shifting equinox axis of Pisces and Virgo. The Book of Revelation is chock-full of accurate cosmic symbolism. Even the core theology of John and Paul, the shift from law to grace, apparently comes straight from a sky map of precession.
In this regard, D.M. Murdock/Acharya S is a pioneer in developing scientific explanations of Christianity, especially the continuity between Christian myths and older stories from Egypt and India. The ancients evidently used precession to construct the Christ myth, but this knowledge was lost due to the power of the church. The task now is to reconstruct the Christ story as a natural explanation of the connection between earth and the cosmos. The physical framework provided by precession of the equinoxes is central to this task of explaining what the Bible authors really meant by the myth of Christ, as the apparent “avatar” of the Age of Pisces.
Writer Robert Tulip works for the Australian government, has a Master’s degree in philosophy from Macquarie University, and is a fervent student of astronomy as well as mythology, including and especially Jesus mythicism. More of his writing can be found on FreethoughtNation.com/forums and Booktalk.org. Robert may be reached at his website and Facebook page as well.
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That’s right. My friend Frank Zindler is one of the few atheists and noted mythicists who actually has studied the mythicist literature in significant depth.
It’s a pity that those who are calling themselves “mythicists” often do not know the literature that defines the term by which they are labeling themselves. Yet, they frequently consider themselves to be “good mythicists,” while disparaging those who [i]have[/i] studied this literature as “bad mythicists.” Obviously, this is an absurd calumny, since it is we who have spent years studying this massive body of mythicist literature who would be the “good mythicists,” while the knowledge of the others is shallow and pales in comparison.
Part of the mythicist school over the past several centuries has been this discernment of the deliberate creation of at least one if not more “avatars” of the Piscean age. Krishna and Buddha can be counted among them as well, since it appears that it was during this same period of the centuries surrounding the common era that their myths were collected, compiled and added to as well. Note also that it was during this era that the Greek mythographer Plutarch collected and collated the myths about Osiris, Isis and Horus as well. There were many more such efforts during this period.
Again we can see the need for a mythicist curriculum. With the publication of the second edition of Christ Conspiracy I am aiming to provide a DVD of the most important mythicist books available in the public domain.
So whats up with the age of Aquarius? I thought after Pisces comes Aquarius.
Great blog, Robert. Thanks for posting.
[quote]”Precession was measured by Greek scientists more than a century before the time of Jesus, and was probably known even earlier by astronomers in Egypt, Babylon, India and Central America.”[/quote]
Concerning the age of the discovery of the precession of the equinoxes, in his book ‘In Search of Ancient Astronomies,’ astronomer and director of Los Angeles’s Griffith Observatory Dr. Edwin Krupp states:
“The earliest known direct reference to precession is that of the Greek astronomer Hipparchus (2nd century BCE), who is credited with discovering it. Adjustments of the Egyptian temple alignments, pointed out by Sir Norman Lockyer, may well indicate a much earlier sensitivity to this phenomenon, however.”
Again, Krupp says:
“Circumstantial evidence implies that the awareness of the shifting equinoxes may be of considerable antiquity, for we find, in Egypt at least, a succession of cults whose iconography and interest focus on duality, the bull, and the ram at appropriate periods for Gemini, Taurus, and Aries in the precessional cycle of the equinoxes.”
– Suns of God, page 40
Religions inspired by astrology.
My interest in the link between the precession of the equinoxes and the evolution of Mid-Eastern religions was sparked over ten years ago by authors such as Mr. Frank Zindler.
As I understand it, about 2,000 years BCE, Taurus gave way to Aries as the zodiac sign of spring, but the Mithraic stone carvings showing the bull being slaughtered have been dated to the dawn of the Common Era and the following few centuries. I would be interested in research findings which suggest that Mithraism has its roots in the observations of astronomers, living around 2,000 BCE, who recognized the equinox precession phenomenon and who observed the shift from Taurus to Aries for purpose of marking the beginning of the spring season.
At about the dawn of the Common Era, Aries was replaced by Pisces for purposes of marking the beginning of the spring season. Of course, the symbolism of the sacrificial lamb is prevalent in Christian dogma as is the theme of fish in Christian iconography.
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Paul Watson The diagram showing the precession is confusing me somewhat. Itappears to be anti-clock-wise. With Pisces being the end of the long cycle, and Aries the beginning, something appears not quite right. Can anyone clarify?thanks!
Robert Tulip Hello Paul – the sun’s movement depends on how you look at it. From the Southern Hemisphere where I live, the sun moves anti-clockwise across the sky each day, clockwise around the stars each year, and anticlockwise around the stars each Great Year. These movements are reversed for observers in the northern hemisphere. “Precession” means going backwards. The detailed diagram of precession shows the astrophysics of the spin wobble, with the earth’s axis pointing to the poles and the equator crossing the zodiac at the equinoxes. I am happy to explain in more detail if you are interested.
Paul Watson Thanks Robert, I did some more digging through my books last night, and I think I understand it better now, thanks!
Tim Luptak Pretty obvious – Moses breaks the golden calf (Taurus), to usher in the age of Jewish priestdom (ram’s horn = Aries), then Jesus recruits fishermen and his symbol is the fish (Pisces), and tells his disciples, “I will be with you unto the end of the age”, and “You will see a man carrying a jug of water (Aquarius), who will come after me to the house I have prepared”. The signs are there for anyone to see, I think…
Robert Tulip Hello Tim, I am glad that you can see the signs there of how the movement of the sun guides the history of Judaeo-Christian myth. The precessional ages from Taurus through to the first half of Aquarius correspond to the seven days of creation, with each day a thousand years. We are now at the cusp from the ‘Saturday’ to the ‘Sunday’ in terms of the 7000 year period of time described by Augustine. This shift underway matches to the move from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius. The 3.5 ages of this 7000 year traditional measure of time have an interesting match to the tribulation.
Jim Hinds But Pisces is dead and gone. What next?
Robert Tulip The way I see it, Pisces is still like a cocoon around the Aquarian chrysalis, or the womb around an unborn baby. If we consider the year 1 as the turning point from Aries to Pisces, the interesting thing is that we can divide the age into twelve ‘hours’ of 179 years each. On this basis we have been in the twelfth hour since May 1968, the eleventh hour began with the storming of the Bastille in 1789, and the tenth age began with Galileo in 1608. I don’t think those dates have dynamic significance, but it frames the clock. Forty years into the twelfth hour, we are in a situation where the old age has power and the new age has vision. Here is a diagram I made of earth’s star clock. http://rtulip.net/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Solar_System_Planet_Clock.4225703_std.JPG
Herco de Boer No, it is still the age of Pisces. The age of acquarius is near, but not there yet (or as Luke 22:10 said, a person with a jar of water will go into the house where the LAST supper is held).
Robert Tulip: Hi Herco – did anyone here say it is not still the Age of Pisces?
I’ve also checked into age or length of time for each zodiac sign of the precession and it’s not perfectly clear due to the positions, movements and distances one would expect in outer space. Same as the calendars aren’t perfect.
There exists no perfect lines between them to make precise determinations. So, that’s why we tend to use the general time scale of the 26,000 year “great year” cycle and simply divide it by 12 = 2166 or, 25,800 / 12 = 2150 works as well. These were never meant to serve as precise measurements just general guidelines because the details are complex and turn into quite a snore-fest.
Same as we are aware of the 13th constellation but, it’s really wacky. Notice we don’t even see astrologers paying that one much attention either. Astrologers aren’t changing their 12 sign structure for it and the Catholics aren’t adding a 13th month to their Gregorian calendar either.
I think the comment from Jim Hinds about the age of Pisces dead and gone triggered the last response.
Yes Herco, the age of Pisces is not dead and gone yet. We have until around 2150 or there abouts before the age changes officially – despite what a lot of people are saying about 2012 and other dates which are not really the end of Pisces.
Gerald Massey averred that the age of Pisces ended in the 19th century, having begun in the second century BCE.
I once asked a professional astronomer about this issue, and she responded that the precise time of a change between ages is not determinable, because there is a sort of “no man’s land” between the constellations. Thus, we see opinions spanning a couple of centuries.
It would be great to hear from another professional astronomer if that claim makes sense, as I have related it, or if I misunderstood, etc.
Equinox went into Pisces at time of Christ
Hi Acharya, I am not a professional astronomer, but I have studied this topic of precession in more depth than most astronomers. As I show in the Aries Pisces star picture ([url]http://www.freethoughtnation.com/images/stories/tulipequinox.jpg[/url]) above in my article on Christ as Avatar, in fact there is a sharp line between Aries and Pisces. The ancients could see that the equinox point crossed this line at the time conventionally assigned as the life of Christ. Readers can see it for themself by expanding the star diagram in the article.
The constellation of Pisces consists of two lines of stars. One line (to the right) stretches along the zodiac path, parallel to the celestial equator. The other line of stars (vertical in the middle of the picture) cuts directly across the zodiac, perpendicular to the path of the sun as seen in the diagram in the article. These two lines of stars are conventionally used to denote the two fish.
The perpendicular line marks a visible boundary between Aries and Pisces. The equinox point precessed across this line of stars in 21 AD. When the sun (or moon or planet) is east of this point it is in sidereal Aries, and when it is west of this point it is in Pisces. The traditional depiction of the ram Aries as extending its foot to the point where the sun crosses the fish line, as shown in the diagram, indicates traditional agreement with this observation. It is like the Ram is anointing the spot where the sun shifted from the age of the Ram to the age of the Fishes at the time of Christ.
Massey’s argument that the equinox point precessed into Pisces before it crossed this line of stars does not agree with the observational evidence. The diagrams I have seen that try to justify earlier dates distort what you actually see in the sky by marking the time when the equinox lines up with the knot star joining the two fish (the star at the bottom of the picture), even though this star is a long way away from the sun’s path.
This is all actually a simple matter of observation, in terms of what the ancients could actually see. They could calculate exactly when the equinox point crossed this line of stars into Pisces by viewing total lunar eclipses. One such total eclipse, a ‘blood moon’, occurred on the night of Passover in 4 BC, visible in Virgo, opposite the sun in Pisces, as the full moon rose at dusk. This event quite possibly gave rise to the line in Revelation 12:1 about the wonder in heaven of the moon at the feet of the woman.
This analysis of the date of the start of the Age of Pisces as defining the time of Christ refers to what the ancients could see and imagine, not to any celestial event with any real impact on the earth. The stars are just markers for human interpretation.
However, there are two areas in which there is a dynamic physical effect of precession. Climate science recognises precession as a main driver of the glaciation cycle, but this light and dark cycle has a period of 21600 years (4000 years shorter than the 25765 year precession cycle) because the whole orbital egg is also slowly spinning against the stars. The dark point of this cycle was in 1246 AD, a time we could call the depth of the iron age or kali yuga. The other effect of precession, less established, is that the solar system itself has a pulse of period 178.9 years, exactly one twelfth of a zodiac age, suggesting our planetary wobble is in resonance with the whole solar system, making the earth like a chrysalis in its cocoon.
Robert Tulip
hello,
here is an animation showing apostles positionned as the Zodiac constellations as per Robert Tulip discovery.
http://youtu.be/br5_S-EiDGg
max (for Robert tulip)
Thee been led to this same research on my own in 2008 and again in 2013 and now again…I’d really love to learn more on astrology and astronomy, however I’m most curious re: the “ages” of Krishna, Buddha and Jesus as in the astrological alignments and “time” of their birth and death. Any articles, books, videos or documentaries you all have on this please send my way! Thanks! I have a theory on “time” as in the earth Version that keeps coming to me that I work on then set aside, since Jan 2009 (then that we were in the time of 799, and the 7 was moving upward, with the goal of us moving to 999), then in June-ish 2013 it popped up again, only this time I was focused on a “version” of the world…so it was 6.### then I thought 4.### and began to have a theory about what the 799 or the 3 digits to the right of the. meant and it had an association with procession through 12 equinoxes. Then a flood of information regarding this came to me today during an energy healing training class I was in and I’m suspecting there’s some correlations of age of time with Krishna Buddha and Jesus that let me to this page so I’m hoping you all have some information you can share my way 🙂 Thank you for your contributions very interesting and intriguing info!! I’m not one for reinventing the wheel so it’s refreshing to know you all already have a firm understanding of this knowledge.
Author if Jesus Christ is a fable how will you face your death?
The same way you will face yours
The humanitarian aspect of the Christ myth is so profound that; makes me wonder, what will represent the next age shift?
MMXVII – 2017
The sign of Aquarius is The sign of the water-bearer. They say That Christ bears the water of eternal life.
The sign of Pisces the two fishes when drawn close together forms a stylized X.
The sign of Aries is the sign of the Sheep or Lamb with a Glyph that can be denoted by V.
The sign of Gemini is the sign of the Twins, or double persona. Something that can also denote double or second.
This is that year.