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 Post subject: Was Krishna's Mother a Virgin?
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Was Krishna's Mother a Virgin?

Because of the ZEITGEIST movie, many questions have come up regarding this issue. I have therefore been inspired to create this post. The following constitutes a summary of the case for the Indian god Krishna to have been born of a virgin mother. Each of these points can be expounded upon at length.

Let me preface this analysis by saying that I am well aware of the orthodox Krishna myth that claims the god's mother, Devaki, had previously given birth to seven other children. The thesis upon which I am operating - and which I myself did not make up but have come to conclude through logical assessment - is that in the Krishna tale we are not talking about real people but about myths. In the world of mythology, gods and goddesses can have a number of children and still be considered "chaste" and "virginal." It is this thesis that I am demonstrating here.

1. In Indo-European myth the dawn goddess is an inviolable virgin. Citations: Here, here and here.

2. The dawn goddess gives birth to the sun. Citations: Here, hereand here.

3. Aditi is an ancient name for the dawn goddess in Indian mythology. Citations: Here, hereand here.

4. Aditi is a mythical character, not a real person. Citations: Here, hereand here.

5. Aditi is the "eternal virgin" or the "celestial virgin." Citations: Here, here, here and here.

6. Aditi is the mother of eight children. Citations: Here, here and here.

7. Krishna's mother, Devaki, is the mother of eight children. Citations: Here, hereand here.

8. Devaki is an incarnation of Aditi. Citations: Here, here, here and here.

9. Vishnu is one of the sons of Aditi. Citations: Here, hereand here.

10. Vishnu is a sun god. Citations: Here, here, and here.

11. Krishna is an incarnation of Vishnu. Citations: Here, here, hereand here.

12. Krishna is a mythical character, not a real person. Citations: Here, here, here.

13. Devaki is a mythical character, not a real person. Citations: Here, hereand here.

14. Devaki is an unmarried teenager while impregnated by eating a fruit. Citation: Here.

15. Devaki is the chaste mother of Krishna. In the Srimad Bhagavatam (10.3.43), Devaki is specifically called "chaste" : "O supremely chaste mother ..... " Citations: Here, here, and here. Chaste can be defined as "virgin."

16. Krishna was conceived via an immaculate, miraculous or sexless conception. The Srimad Bhagavatam (10.3.17) also says: "You never entered the womb of Devaki; rather, You existed there already." Citations: Here, hereand here.

Logical conclusion based on these facts and suppositions:

Krishna is a mythical personification of Vishnu, who is a sun god. Devaki is a mythical personification of Aditi, who is the "Eternal Virgin" dawn goddess. Devaki is a virgin mother dawn goddess who gives birth to Krishna the sun god.

That's the whole case made in Suns of God regarding this issue.

Further conclusions:

1. We did not make up this contention that Krishna's mother was a chaste virgin. 2. There is good reason for this conclusion.

Notes: "Suppositions" refer to our contention that Devaki and Krishna are myths and not real people, the latter being believed by many people. The rest are facts regarding their myths.

Although most of these sources cited are Indian scholars, we do not possess irrational prejudice against Western scholars by assuming that they are not intelligent enough to understand Indian religion and mythology.

Disclaimer: We understand that there are many fervent believers in the religion of Krishna. This exploration of the meaning behind various aspects of Indian mythology should not be construed as an attack on believers. However, we have come to these conclusions based on sound evidence and facts. Therefore, we do not deserve to be abused, insulted, disparaged and disrespected for coming to this logical, reasonable and rational conclusion. The reader, of course, is free to believe whatever he or she wishes.

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 Post subject: Who Says Krishna's Mother was a Virgin?
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Who Says Krishna's Mother was a Virgin?

There have been many references to Krishna's mother as a "virgin" over the centuries, some of which I provide here. Whenever I read these types of remarks, I do not immediately dismiss them and their authors, derogatorily and haughtily presuming that they are wrong, fabricated or mendacious, but I investigate further in order to see from where precisely this information may have come.

From studies of comparative religion and mythology, we can conclude the virgin-birth motif was evidently viewed at least at certain times as a "mystery," even within Christianity. (See here, hereand here.) Thus, we would not necessarily expect outright proclamations of this motif within various exoteric religious teachings. There are, however, hints of it even in exoteric Hinduism, for example, and, on top of that, various writers over the ages who reported Krishna's mother as a "virgin" may have been members of secret societies and mystery schools that transcend nationality and allow secret doctrines to be shared. An indication of this esoteric knowledge within Hinduism may be seen in the following fascinating quote by an Indian Hindu initiate.

In his book Sree Krishna: The Lord of Love, Baba Premanand Bharati remarks:

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...During the Golden Age and the greater portion of the Silver Age all men and women are, what Christians call, virgin-born. The fuss that is made about this immaculate conception succeeds only to excite a smile of pity in the Shastra-enlightened Hindoo - a smile of pity for the ignorance of the facts in the past history of the human race of which they seem to know so little and care less to know more. This fact about the Golden and Silver Ages, this generally prevailing immaculate conception, ought to open their eyes. If they require any authority for this statement, I refer them to the study of the Shanti Parva of the Mahabharata.

As we can see, this Indian initiate states outright that all individuals born during the entire Golden Age and most of the Silver Age are the result of immaculate conceptions and virgin births! According to Bharati, the Golden Age or Satya Yuga lasted some 1,728,000 years - such an immense period, of course, would have produced many virgin-born individuals. He further indicates that this knowledge is available to the "Shastra-enlightened Hindu" (but perhaps not to anyone else) and that it is indicated in the Mahabharata, a pre-Christian Indian text. Whether or not we believe in such ages is immaterial to this discussion. These remarks are extremely important and must be kept in mind when studying any religion but especially Hinduism as discussed here, so that we may understand there are mysteries not widely available to the masses through mainstream texts and teachings.

Indeed, that "the mysteries" in general have existed and continue to exist is a fact, as is the existence of brotherhoods and mystery schools. In the past, divulgence of mysteries was considered a capital offense, and not a few people have been killed because of supposedly committing just such an offense. (And, we can see from the rabid and deranged manner in which my work and I are treated that this nasty business of censorship continues to this day.)

These facts must be recalled when discussing any religious idea or doctrine that is not necessarily well known to the public. In any event, the following quotes regarding Krishna's mother are provided here in order to demonstrate that neither I nor any other single individual to my knowledge has simply "fabricated" this notion of virginity. Where there is smoke, there may well be fire, and I have given reasons in the post above to conclude that the fire appears real but may have been extinguished at some point in an ongoing effort to make the characters of Hindu mythology appear to be "real people," as well as to bury a mystery.

One source of much smoke is another Indian writer who, in his remarks regarding Krishna, may have known the information discussed by Swami Bharati. In his book Bhagavad Gita: The Divine Message, an Indian disciple of the Indian guru Ramakrishna, Swami Abhedananda, states:

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The Hindus have worshipped from ancient times the baby Krishna in the arms of Virgin Devaki just as the Roman catholics [sic] worship Madona [sic] with baby Christ.

Was Abhedananda privy to information kept from the public at large but transmitted to him from his master Ramakrishna? Or was this Indian mystic simply deluded by clever Westerners who nonetheless had absolutely no knowledge of the Hindu "Shastra enlightenment" that described the long Golden Age of virgin births?

If what Swami Bharati says is common knowledge among initiates - and his comment about "the Shastra-enlightened Hindoo" indicates that it is - we can imagine that the virgin-birth mystery was shared not only among Indian members of the brotherhood and mystery schools but also with outsiders who nonetheless were likewise members of a secret society, fraternity or mystery school. Indeed, such exchange of mysteries is not only hinted at but spelled out by various writers who were Freemasons. As Mason Godfrey Higgins remarks in his Anacalypsis:

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I was also told by a gentleman who was in the strictest intimacy with the late -----Ellis, Esq., of the Madras establishment; that Mr. Ellis told him, that the pass-word and forms used by the Master Masons in their lodge, would pass a person into the sanctum sanctorum of an Indian temple; that he, Mr. Ellis, had, by means of his knowledge as a Master Mason, actually passed himself into the sacred part or adytum of one of them. Soon after Mr. Ellis told this to my informant he was taken suddenly ill, and died, and my informant stated, that he had no doubt, notwithstanding the mistake which his friends call it in giving some medicine, that he was poisoned by his servants for having done this very act, or for being known to possess this knowledge.

It is thus possible that some of the individuals who related the virgin birth of Krishna were in possession of this mystery out of India. It is further possible that this information was subsequently censored, as in the case of Sir William Jones, a judge of the Supreme Court in Calcutta and probable Mason, who removed the virgin-birth motif regarding Krishna from his original Asiatic Researches, volume 1, possibly for the reason given by Godfrey Higgins above. As concerns the India-Masonic connection, after mentioning that the composer Beethoven had been reading India-related writings by Sir William Jones, the author of Beethoven Forum remarks:

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This attention to Eastern ways of thought is strongly suggestive of Masonic preoccupations, for intellectuals of the period came to Eastern thought in all its manifestations through the Masonic literature and by way of the "oriental" rites that were practiced by the Freemasons in their exotic temples.... Eastern religion and literature was a special preserve of the Freemasons...

In 1784, Sir Jones published the first volume of his series called Asiatic Researches, which would become very popular with the European elite. Four years later, in 1788, the first volume was reissued, this time gutted of pertinent information regarding Krishna, including his virgin birth. It appears that copies of the original edition of 1784 were destroyed where they were found; however, some must have survived, such that we can reproduce what was originally found there and then removed.

Most important were two quotes in the original first volume of Asiatic Researches by Sir Jones stating that Krishna's mother was a "virgin," one of which claimed this contention could be found in "the Sanskrit Dictionary" purportedly compiled 2,000 years previously. Fortunately these quotes and others were preserved by the "heretic" Rev. Robert Taylor, who for his efforts at spreading the message about the patent unoriginality of the gospel story of Jesus Christ was imprisoned twice in Great Britain in the 1820s on charges of blasphemy. To my knowledge, Jones's commentary from 1784 regarding Krishna's virgin birth is the first in any English publication. It is possible, however, that the motif was written about elsewhere in the previous lingua franca, Latin, or in another language such as German. The virgin-birth motif discussed by Swami Bharati may, in fact, be found in some esoteric Indian text as well, as there are purportedly some 10,000 texts in a variety of Indian dialects that remain untranslated into any other language.

According to Rev. Robert Taylor, the remarks by Sir William Jones originally found in Asiatic Researches, vol. 1, p. 259, are as follows:

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[Krishna] was born from the left intercostal rib of a Virgin, of the royal line of Devaci, and after his manifestation on earth, returned again to his heavenly seat in Vaicontha.

Further on in Asiatic Researches, volume 1, on p. 273, according to Rev. Taylor in his Syntagma, appeared the following quote from Sir Jones:

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"In the Sanscrit Dictionary, compiled more than two thousand years ago, we have the whole story of the incarnate deity born of a virgin..."

Concerning Jones's statements, the much-maligned Kersey Graves also reports:

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Sir William Jones says:

"The Indian incarnate God Chrishna, the Hindoos believe, had a virgin mother of the royal race, who was sought to be destroyed in his infancy about nine hundred years before Christ...."

Writing prior to Graves was Logan Mitchell, author of Christian Mythology Unveiled, who likewise reproduced a quote purportedly from Sir Jones:

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Sir William Jones...confesses that, "the name of Chrishna, and the general outline of his story, was long anterior to the birth of our Saviour... In the Sanskrit Dictionary, compiled more than two thousand years ago, we have the whole story of the incarnate Deity, BORN OF A VIRGIN, and miraculously escaping in his infancy from the reigning tyrant of his country."

In my book Suns of God, I go into a long investigation of what allegedly appeared in the original volume 1 of Asiatic Researches and what happened to it afterwards. It is quite clear that the reissued text had been expurgated, with the pertinent part and others removed. It is also evident from the quotes I provide there and my analysis thereof that these individuals, Taylor, Graves and Logan, provided three independent sources verifying that the contentions about Krishna's virgin mother were in fact in the original volume 1 of Asiatic Researches, apparently on pp. 259 and 273. When we go to edition reissued in 1788, of course, they are no longer there.

The question is was this highly germane virgin-birth mention removed because it was in error--a hoax played by Jones or upon him?--or because it constituted a mystery that was not to be known by the "vulgar masses?" The remarks from Swami Bharati would indicate the latter to be true: To wit, the virgin-birth motif is (or was) found in the mysteries of India but is not widely known outside of the esoteric circle of fraternities and mystery schools.

It should be reminded that the point of providing these quotes is not to hold up their authors or originators as ultimate authorities on the virginal status of Krishna's mother but to demonstrate: a) that this contention did not originate with me or anyone else in the past century; b) that various shenanigans have taken place surrounding this issue that pique one's curiosity; and c) that these quotes and mystery provide a jumping off point worthy of further inquiry.

Another person who refers to Devaki as the "virgin mother of Krishna" is Dr. Meg McGavran Murray, a professor at Missippi State University, in Face to Face: Fathers, Mothers, Masters, Monsters--Essays for a Nonsexist Future.

Lending further credence to this idea, in Mother goddess in Indian art, archaeology & literature, Mahesh Chandra Prasad Srivastava raises Devaki and then relates, "In her character of Great Mother, the Feminine is a virgin..." (p. 98 ) He also states that the "virgin mother was worshipped in [the] Indus valley." (p. 26)

Others who have followed suit with commenting upon the virginal status of Devaki include the ex-priest Joseph McCabe and those whose remarks may be found here, here, here, here, hereand here. All of these texts, it should be noted, long predate the publications of my works, which therefore had no influence on them. Again, they are provided here not as authorities proving that the mythical Devaki was at any point considered not only chaste but also virginal but in order to demonstrate that the concept was in people's minds long before I myself wrote anything on the subject.

For more information on this mystery of the mysteries, please see my book Suns of God.

Disclaimer: We understand that there are many fervent believers in the religion of Krishna. This exploration of the meaning behind various aspects of Indian mythology should not be construed as an attack on believers. However, we have come to these conclusions based on sound evidence and facts. Therefore, we do not deserve to be abused, insulted, disparaged and disrespected for coming to this logical, reasonable and rational conclusion. The reader, of course, is free to believe whatever he or she wishes.

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Some Words about Mainstream Sources

One thing I note about the academics and experts on the subject of Krishna, for example, is that they almost exclusively rely on mainstream texts that are readily available in their libraries and have been on curricula for decades or centuries. They seldom seem to know about the more esoteric texts, such as those that spurred the Asiatic Researches volumes compiled by Sir William Jones; or the travel accounts of Abbe Huc, who was excommunicated from the Catholic Church because of his discoveries regarding the startling similarities between the religion and story of Jesus and those of gods in the East; or the work of Edward Moor, who likewise discovered some parallels hidden from vulgar view between Krishna or other Indian gods and Jesus Christ; or that of Godfrey Higgins, who was a magistrate in India and who was allowed into the inner workings of the Hindu priesthood.

I am not particularly impressed by the mainstream scholars who merely parrot the approved texts, many of which were handed to the Western world by the Hindu priesthood expressly in order to prevent outsiders from knowing about more esoteric traditions, which are unknown to the rank-and-file Hindu believers as well. When academic experts on the Krishna material expound upon various characteristics attributed to him, they give the impression that we are discussing a monolithic entity who really and truly walked the earth and has a strict and factual biography. In my studied opinion, Krishna was not a real person with a factual biography set in stone.

I realize I risk the wrath here of both scholars and Hindu fanatics, but I am not about to go on record stating that I believe that an Indian incarnation of the god Vishnu with blue skin, as fantastically depicted in the Mahabharata and elsewhere, was a "real person." It must be constantly kept in mind that the stories about Krishna were not written down all at once, shortly after he purportedly existed. The Mahabharata, for instance, is a composite text passed along orally for centuries and written down in sections much later by a wide variety of hands separated by hundreds of years and well into the common era. Nor are the story and character of "Krishna" considered to be exactly the same in various parts and eras of India; indeed, while Krishna is a god and hero in many parts of India, he is considered an "impious wretch" in others. When the subject is studied in depth, it becomes evident that we are talking about a mythical, composite character much the same as I aver Jesus to be. Hence, it is quite misleading to state definitively what exactly Krishna's story and characteristics have been - they have changed and mutated from era to era and place to place, precisely as happened with the tales of Christ, as related in not only the gospels but also the apocrypha such as the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. When all the exoteric (New Testament) and esoteric (apocryphal) texts about Jesus are factored together, do we have a uniform, set-in-stone story of Christ, with no discrepancies and all voices about him concurring in every detail? The answer to that question is NO. The same can and should be said of Krishna, as well as Buddha.

Hence, the point about this expert or that making definitive statements about Krishna, as if he and he alone possesses the entire truth about the subject, is moot. In addition to the arguments already provided, I submit that much data about Krishna is not only held back by the current and past authorities of Hinduism, but is also LOST and unknown to them, comprising both written material and numerous oral traditions passed by countless priesthoods around the populous Indian subcontinent for centuries to millennia. As another point, there are purportedly some 10,000 ancient texts in a variety of Indian languages that have not even been translated - what could these texts contain, characteristics and doctrines of the Indian religions previously unknown to experts and authorities? The chance is quite likely.

For more on this fascinating subject, including responses to the criticisms of Christ Conspiracy that evangelists and scholars alike rehash, please see my book Suns of God.

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Born-Again Virginity in the Mahabharata

The status of a holy woman becoming a "born-again virgin" is discussed as a mystery by Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexander, before Christianity was in currency or even existed, in actuality.

Lo and behold, as indicated by Swami Bharati, there turn out to be a number of instances of such "born-again virginity" in the famous Indian epic, the Mahabharata, much of which predates the common era by at least six centuries, by conservative dating.

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...Draupadi is stated to have become virgin (kanya) afresh even after her union with any of the five brothers whom she was married with... Madhavi is said to have become virgin after several issues... Satyavati and Kunti became kanya after giving birth to Vyasa and Karna respectively.

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The same is recounted in "Bheel Mahabharata: Kunti and the Birth of the Sun-God's Child":

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The Mahabharata here mentions clearly that Soorya [Surya] did not have sex with [Kunti], but impregnated her through his yogic power so that her maidenhood remained undamaged....

Thus in the first narration of the story Karna is the result of actual sex between Kunti and Soorya, in the second Kunti and Soorya do not have sex and the consummation of the invocation is through a yogic process, leaving Kunti's virginity intact, making Karna's birth an 'immaculate' one and Kunti a virgin mother in the most inclusive meaning of the term.

Yet another summary of the same part of the Mahabharata:

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To test her power, [Kunti] invoked Surya, the sun deva, and Karna was born to her--yet she remained a virgin.

-- Paramahansa Yogananda, The Bhagavad Gita, xxxiii

With such a fact in mind, it is difficult to see why Hindus take offense at the suggestion that Krishna's mother likewise may have been one of these "born-again virgins," especially when it is apparent after close scrutiny that we are not discussing a "real person" but a mythical character.

It is interesting to note that one of these born-again virgins, Kunti, who is likely also a mythical character, is graced with the epithet "Devi," meaning "divine." While Devi gives birth to Karna, Krsna's mother is Devaki. Meanwhile another Krishna, the legendary Mahabharata composer himself, was likewise said to be the offspring of the born-again virgin Satyavati.

Regarding this character Draupadi, in The Cult of Draupadi, Dr. Alf Hiltebeitel, a professor of Hinduism at George Washington University, states (pp. 8-9):

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The Mahabharata does, to be sure, convey the impression that Draupadi abstains from sexual relations with her husbands during the period of forest exile... But beyond that interval, she is a normal wife and mother. In the Draupadi cult, however, she is a virgin. This is only hinted at in the dramatists' song's references to her "chastity." A pattini (verses 11, 17 and 18; Sanskrit patni) is a wife, but with the connotation of one who remains faithful to her husband... But it can also refer to a virgin. The chapbook pucari songs leave no doubt that Draupadi is the latter:

You are a virgin lady [kumariyare], my mother...

(NM, 16, II. 10-11)

Hiltebeitel also states of Draupadi (pp. 75-76):

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And though she is ever a virgin, she usually shares her garbhagrha ["womb house"] with one or more of her husbands...Draupadi...whose cult requires that she be a virgin with the paradoxical complement of husbands and sons who have always shared her story in the Mahabharata.

As the Mahabharata itself states: "Without doubt, through the grace of that god, I once more became a virgin."

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Karna is a hero...in the Indian epic the Mahabharata... He is the son of...Kunti...and the Sun... Karna was the firstborn of Kunti while she was still a virgin (see Virgin Birth). By invoking a spell taught her by the sage Durvasa, Kunti became impregnated by the "light of the Universe."

David Leeming, A Dictionary of Asian Mythology, 97.

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Kordabbu--This epic of the Tulu-speaking people of southern India tells the story of the magical and apparently virgin-born (see Virgin Birth) hero...Kordabbu...

A Dictionary of Asian Mythology, 99.

If these mere mortals were granted such a status, why would not Krishna's mother be as well?

It seems that many of the individuals who have objected to this notion of Krishna's mother being just such a born-again virgin are not aware of the presence of this mystery theme in the Mahabharata.

Further evidence which contradicts the claim that Hindu tradition is "unconcerned with virginity" appears in the use of the word "virgin" in several instances throughout the Mahabharata--indeed the fact that some of the major characters in the MHb are concerned with their virginity or the products of virgin birth attests to the importance of virginity within ancient Hindu thought.

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Another Krishna Born of a Virgin!

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The accounts of Vyasa's birth in the MBh [Mahabharata] prefigure the greatness of his career... Immediately before Vyasa was summoned to perform his first great deed..., Satyavati told the patriarch Bhisma how she had given birth to this sage.

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...the ascetic said to me that upon delivering my child on an island in the river, "you will still be a virgin." Thus, Parasarya, the great yogi and great rsi [rishi], the son I had as a virgin, was born to me at that time, the one who is known as Dvaipayana--the blessed lord and rsi who, by the power of ascesticism, divided the Vedas into four, and hence became in the world Vyasa, and because of his darkness, Krsna.

Bruce M. Sullivan, Kṛṣṇa Dvaipāyana Vyāsa and the Mahābhārata, 28.

This Krishna--whose mother gave birth while "still a virgin"--is the legendary author of the Mahabharata itself.

Dr. Sullivan--a Professor of Religious Studies at Northern Arizona University who specializes in Hinduism and Sanskrit literature--continues:

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The bard Vaisampayana tells a very similar story about the birth of Vyasa... A brahmin rsi named Parasara, struck by the beauty of the young woman ferrying him across the Yamuna River, made advances toward her. When she protested that holy men on either bank could see them, he created a fog that hid them, and when she said that losing her virginity would make going back home unendurable, the sage...promised her that after their love-making, she would still be virgin...

Bruce M. Sullivan, Kṛṣṇa Dvaipāyana Vyāsa and the Mahābhārata, 28.

And again, Sullivan states:

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The reciter Sauti also gives an account of Vyasa's birth, in which he describes the rsi Krsna Dvaipayana as follows:

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...he whom Kali bore from Parasara, the son of Sakti, even as a virgin...

Bruce M. Sullivan, Kṛṣṇa Dvaipāyana Vyāsa and the Mahābhārata, 29.

See also this rendition of the "sage" Krishna's birth in the MHb.

The bottom line is this: Whether or not "the" Krishna's mother, Devaki - a term simply meaning "Divine One" and reflecting her mythical status - was a virgin, there was a Krishna predating the Christian era by centuries who was allegedly born of a virgin. Indeed, this virgin-born Krishna was the supposed composer of one of India's most fabulous literary works and greatest epics. It would be just a tad difficult for people educated in the other cultures of the known world to ignore this conspicuous story attached to some of the most popular Hindu holy scriptures. In my opinion, it is more than likely there was at least one copy of the Mahabharata at the Library of Alexandria. And the students there undoubtedly included those with priestly inclinations and a fascination for religion and religious competition. The various priesthoods loved to regale each other with their fabulous tales, and visiting Hindu priests, Brahmins, Gymnosophists, etc., would surely have related some of their most beloved and long-lived stories, especially as contained in the Mahabharata.

In the end, Jewish priests and others engaged in the endeavor to create a new religion that would amalgamate Judaism and Paganism, while turning the major deities of other religions into Jewish figures, would have plenty of material to draw from, especially with the Hindu sacred scriptures and their VIRGIN BIRTH at their disposal.

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Vishnu Incarnated as Rama via a Virgin Womb!

As further demonstration of the very prominent motif of the virgin birth within Hinduism, one of Vishnu's other incarnations--the famed demigod/hero Rama, Krishna's "brother"--is likewise "born of a virgin."

In The Cult of the Goddess Pattini, a word that means "young woman" as well as "virgin," professor emeritus of Anthropology at Princeton University, Dr. Gananth Obeyesekere relates a chant or "plaint" that addresses Vishnu and says, "In addition listen reverend sir who was born as the offspring of King Dasaratha [as Rama] born from the virgin womb of your divine mother..."

--Gananath Obeyesekere, The Cult of the Goddess Pattini, 93.

The goddess Pattini, Dr. Obeyesekere explains, is "virgin and wife and mother." He then seeks to address the following question: "How is it that men perceive Pattini as ideal wife, who is at the same time virgin and mother?" (Obeyesekere, 451.)

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