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 Post subject: Catholic migrant in Saudi Arabia: Three years without a day
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Non-Muslims are subhuman and have no rights. Here is an entire nation - one made wealthy by our oil habits - enslaving people because they are not of the same cult.

Why are the human rights organizations so quiet?

"In the Islamic country there is no freedom of religion. In order to keep her faith alive the woman took refuge in her room to pray."

Catholic migrant in Saudi Arabia: Three years without a day of rest and mass

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam
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This site has links to a gazillion others, all categorized. Phew!

Everything you need to know about Islam

Here's an important one from the same site:

Man boy sex (Pederasty) in Islam

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 Post subject: The Myth of the Golden Age of Islam
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And here's another important article:

Islam’s Golden Age: An Archaeological Nonentity

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In my recently published Holy Warriors: Islam and the Demise of Classical Civilization, I have argued in detail that Islam, far from being a force for enlightenment in the so-called Dark Age, was actually responsible for the destruction of the literate and urban civilization that we now call Classical; and that, if anything, it was Islam that caused Europe’s descent into backwardness during the Middle Ages. In the same place I have argued in detail that the Islamic Golden Age of the late seventh to the mid-tenth centuries, during which the world of Islam is supposed to have basked in the light of science and learning, is a complete myth, and that no such epoch ever existed. The evidence for this is archaeological.

Until the nineteenth and twentieth centuries scholars were compelled to rely entirely on written sources for their knowledge of the ancient and medieval worlds. The competent historian of course always had the critical faculty with which to differentiate between fact and fable, between propaganda and honest reporting. There was also, from the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, a more sophisticated form of textual criticism. Yet no matter how discerning the scholar, in the end all he had to work with was the written word. But this all began to change in the nineteenth century. From then on, scholars had something independent with which to check the claims of the chroniclers and annalists of old: the science of archaeology....

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam
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Go, Geert, go!

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Anti-Islam party makes major gains

The anti-Islam party of far-right politician Geert Wilders has made major gains in local elections held in the Netherlands. The party took part in two cities and has become the largest party in Almere and the second largest in The Hague.

The Freedom Party has taken around 20 percent of the vote in these cities. Geert Wilders told Dutch TV that it was fantastic day for his party.

"This is a springboard for the vote on June 9," said Wilders referring to the forthcoming national elections.

An opinion poll held at the same time as the local vote showed that Wilders' Freedom Party had the most support in the Netherlands and would be the biggest party nationally should a general election be held now, another poll put them as the third biggest party just a few seats behind the main established political parties.

Votes were cast in almost four hundred districts altogether. Turnout was 56 percent, which meant that some 7 million people voted.

The Christian Democrat CDA from caretaker prime minister Jan Peter Balkenende and the Labour Party of Wouter Bos were the biggest losers. The coalition government combining these two parties, plus the much smaller Christian Union, collapsed just two weeks ago over the question of extending the Dutch military mission in Afghanistan - it seems voters have lost much of their faith in these parties following the break.

Other parties who did well in the local elections were the centre-right D66 and the left-wing Green Left party, notably both parties have been vocal in their opposition to Geert Wilders Freedom Party.

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam
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Obama calls 'entrepreneurship summit' with Muslims

"WASHINGTON — The White House on Friday announced a "summit on entrepreneurship" to build economic ties with the Islamic world, part of President Barack Obama's outreach to Muslims."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... adMxF7DDrA

Open your wallets: Obama calls "entrepreneurship summit" with Muslims

"Which means that the U.S. gives Muslim countries more money, which they fritter away on dawah or jihad or perks for the high command, and everything continues as before."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/03/open- ... ent-647291

Obama Names Envoy to 57-Nation Islamic Group to Improve Ties
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... -ties.html

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KEEP IN MIND:

"Global Banks Embrace Islam"
http://www.augustreview.com/issues/glob ... 007121282/

"Islam: Shari'a-Compliant Finance Becoming Viable Part Of Global Banking"
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/20 ... eb1c8.html

Shariah Finance Watch: Exposing the Risks of Shariah Finance
http://shariahfinancewatch.wordpress.com

Western Interest in Islamic Finance Increasing
March 05, 2009
http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/bus ... asing.html

Britain's a world-leader in sharia banking - but we haven't grasped the sinister and dangerous implications
10th February 2009
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... tions.html

Replace capitalism with Islamic financial system: cleric
Oct 12, 2008

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j1s ... o3ldO84wng

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... le=1&lst=1

Islamic Banking Links section
http://www.islamic-banking.com/links/index.php

http://muslim-investor.com (pro Shariah Investment site, this should be watched and studied to be able to fight shariah finance)

"Jihad comes to Wall Street"
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index. ... e&sid=1862

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"Harvard Goes Halal"

"With $800 billion already in Shariah assets — and $1 trillion to $2 trillion in Arab petrodollars annually looking for an investment home — the potential for billions being siphoned off for terrorism is real."

http://www.investors.com/editorial/edit ... 1200915489


Shariah Compliant Banks
http://www.shariahfinancewatch.org/blog ... ant-banks/

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GAFFNEY: Treasury submits to Shariah

"The U.S. Treasury Department is submitting to Shariah - the seditious religio-political-legal code authoritative Islam seeks to impose worldwide under a global theocracy.

As reported in this space last week, Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Robert Kimmitt set the stage with his recent visit to Saudi Arabia and other oil-rich Persian Gulf states. His stated purpose was to promote the recycling of petrodollars in the form of foreign investment here.

Evidently, the price demanded by his hosts is that the U.S. government get with the Islamist financial program. While in Riyadh, Mr. Kimmitt announced: "The U.S. government is currently studying the salient features of Islamic banking to ascertain how far it could be useful in fighting the ongoing world economic crisis."

"Islamic banking" is a euphemism for a practice better known as "Shariah-Compliant Finance (SFC)." And it turns out that this week the Treasury will be taking officials from various federal agencies literally to school on SFC.

The department is hosting a half-day course entitled "Islamic Finance 101" on Thursday at its headquarters building. Treasury's self-described "seminar for the policy community" is co-sponsored with the leading academic promoters of Shariah and SCF in the United States: Harvard University Law School's Project on Islamic Finance. At the very least, the U.S. government evidently hopes to emulate Harvard's success in securing immense amounts of Wahhabi money in exchange for conforming to the Islamists' agenda. Like Harvard, Treasury seems utterly disinterested in what Shariah actually is, and portends.

Unfortunately, such submission - the literal meaning of "Islam" - is not likely to remain confined long to the Treasury or its sister agencies. Thanks to the extraordinary authority conferred on Treasury since September, backed by the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), the department is now in a position to impose its embrace of Shariah on the U.S. financial sector. The nationalization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Treasury's purchase of - at last count - 17 banks and the ability to provide, or withhold, funds from its new slush-fund can translate into unprecedented coercive power....

... After all, the object of Shariah is the supplanting of our government and Constitution, through violent means if possible and, until then, through stealthy ones. Islamists, having secured footholds via their parallel societies, inevitably use those to extend their influence over Muslims who have no more interest in living under authoritative Islam's Shariah than the rest of us do. Inexorably, it becomes the turn of non-Muslims to accommodate themselves to ever more intrusive demands from the Islamists...

It is known as submission, or dhimmitude."

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/no ... o-shariah/


The map of The United States of Islam
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/ ... lam-lg.jpg

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The 300 Billion Dollar Bailout of Sharia Finance

canada free press
March 6, 2009

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"...But in bailing out Citigroup, the American taxpayer isn’t simply bailing out Prince Alaweed Bin Talal’s bank, who actually increased his stake at the end of 2008 when investors were jumping overboard, or protecting the investment of the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority. We’re also engaging in a 300 billion dollar plus bailout of Sharia finance. Because Citigroup’s Islamic Banking operation represents the world’s leading of Islamic loans and Sukuk bonds.

Citigroup pioneered the big bank embrace of Sharia finance back in the 90’s. Citigroup co-launched the Dow Jones Sukuk bond index in 2006. Citigroup continues to help bring Sharia finance across the world with its wholly owned subsidiary, the Citi Islamic Investment Bank.

And the terrorist connections aren’t hard to find either. Citi Islamic Investment Bank is overseen by “eminent” Sharia scholars. For example Nazih Hammad, President of Citi Islamic Investment Bank’s Sharia board. Nazih Hammad is a board member of the North American Fiqh Council.

The North American Fiqh Council is another one of the Saudi front groups operating in America, one of whose trustees was Alamoudi, an Al Queda fundraiser. The North American Fiqh Council’s former President, Taha Jaber Al-Alawani, was an unindicted co-conspirator in the case of Islamic Jihad leader, Sami Al Arian. And there was board member Sheikh Muhammad al-Hanooti, who had extensive Hamas ties..."

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"...Meanwhile the American taxpayer is underwriting the investment of the Saudi Prince and maintaining the number one Sharia finance bank in the world, to the tune of a sum that may exceed a third of a Trillion dollars. That means the US government now officially owns a third of the largest Sharia finance arranger in the world, together with the Saudi royal family. The conjunction of Wahhabism’s quest for global Islamic domination and the US government come together again.

And we’re not done yet. AIG is next on the bailout parade. The American taxpayer will be kicking in another 30 billion for AIG, on top of an earlier 40 billion dollars for a total of 70 billion dollars. Meanwhile the Federal Reserve will kick in another 26 billion, in exchange for a stake in AIG’s foreign life insurance operations, which operate abroad. Naturally AIG is also big into Sharia finance, even fielding Sharia finance offerings domestically.

So not only is every American living today going deep into debt to underwrite the destructive mismanagement of major financial companies such as AIG and Citigroup, but in the process is becoming deeply enmeshed in underwriting and promoting Islamic Banking.

Islamic Banking uses a Sharia board to vet permissible investments. That Sharia board is much the same for Citigroup and AIG. It consists of Saudi or Saudi affiliated “religious scholars” who have to give their okay on financial products that can be sold by a bank. This has obvious political implications.

Ever since the 70’s, Muslims have been employing boycotts as a form of aggression. The more recent blowup over the Mohammed cartoons saw Danish companies being targeted with boycotts as a means of pressuring the Danish government. Under Sharia finance those boycotts can take a much more powerful form than burning down a KFC place. Instead the Sharia board of banks such as Citigroup can bar investments from particular countries and companies. Sharia finance therefore serves as a direct way for banks compliant with Islamic law to participate in Islamic boycotts. With the US government taking a third of Citigroup, and with AIG next on line, American taxpayers will be involved in conducting Islamic boycotts as a tool to pressure the uruly infidel.

That of course isn’t all there is to it, but it’s a destructive beginning. The US government hasn’t just bailed out Wall Street fatcats, but the centers of Islamic finance, rescuing the sizable investments of Saudi Arabia and the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority. And American taxpayers are now in the position of funding the world’s largest Sharia arranger, as well as the importation of Sharia finance to the United States through AIG.

Lenin used to talk about the capitalists selling him the rope with which he would hang them. He had no clue that we would actually be buying the noose of Sharia Finance with which we’re being hung, and paying through the nose for the privilege...."

Please read the full article

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/9073


Sharia banking, Sharia-compliant, Islamic Finance,

Shariah Finance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmRbum9x0nU

Robert Spencer on Shariah Finance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r0X-I83 ... re=related

Sharia Courts Operating in Britain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLOflbA ... re=related

West Loves Islamic Banks
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?t=4445

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Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.

"(CNN) -- The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group's goal is to force America into bankruptcy."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/ ... aden.tape/


Geithner's New York Fed Pushed AIG To Keep Sweetheart Deals Secret
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/0 ... 14449.html

After Helping Gordon Gekko Evade the SEC, Will Geithner Finally Now Be Fired?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sir ... 15166.html

Is anyone else paying any attention to what is happening with sharia monetary system around the world? I get the sense that we're being set-up for a take-over and that our own western leaders across several 'western' countries are catering towards Islam/Muslims. That's what it looks like when you investigate the issue.

I'm sure it's nothing. Just stick your head deep under the sand & ignore all of this info ...

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam
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Study: 3 in 4 U.S. mosques preach anti-West extremism

Secret survey exposes widespread radicalism


An undercover survey of more than 100 mosques and Islamic schools in America has exposed widespread radicalism, including the alarming finding that 3 in 4 Islamic centers are hotbeds of anti-Western extremism, WND has learned [emphasis added].

The Mapping Sharia in America Project, sponsored by the Washington-based Center for Security Policy, has trained former counterintelligence and counterterrorism agents from the FBI, CIA and U.S. military, who are skilled in Arabic and Urdu, to conduct undercover reconnaissance at some 2,300 mosques and Islamic centers and schools across the country.

"So far of 100 mapped, 75 should be on a watchlist," an official familiar with the project said [emphasis added].

Many of the Islamic centers are operating under the auspices of the Saudi Arabian government and U.S. front groups for the radical Muslim Brotherhood based in Egypt.

Frank Gaffney, a former Pentagon official who runs the Center for Security Policy, says the results of the survey have not yet been published. But he confirmed that "the vast majority" are inciting insurrection and jihad through sermons by Saudi-trained imams and anti-Western literature, videos and textbooks.

The project, headed by David Yerushalmi, a lawyer and expert on sharia law, has finished collecting data from the first cohort of 102 mosques and schools. Preliminary findings indicate that almost 80 percent of the group exhibit a high level of sharia-compliance and jihadi threat, including:

Ultra-orthodox worship in which women are separated from men in the prayer hall and must enter the mosque from a separate, usually back, entrance; and are required to wear hijabs.

Sermons that preach women are inferior to men and can be beaten for disobedience; that non-Muslims, particularly Jews, are infidels and inferior to Muslims; that jihad or support of jihad is not only a Muslim's duty but the noblest way, and suicide bombers and other so-called "martyrs" are worthy of the highest praise; and that an Islamic caliphate should one day encompass the U.S. [emphasis added].

Solicitation of financial support for jihad [emphasis added].

Bookstores that sell books, CDs and DVDs promoting jihad and glorifying martyrdom.

Though not all mosques in America are radicalized, many have tended to serve as safe havens and meeting points for Islamic terrorist groups. Experts say there are at least 40 episodes of extremists and terrorists being connected to mosques in the past decade alone.

Some of the 9/11 hijackers, in fact, received aid and counsel from one of the largest mosques in the Washington, D.C., area. Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center is one of the mosques identified by undercover investigators as a hive of terrorist activity and other extremism. [the hijackers were included in a complex ops to pull off 9/11]

It was founded and is currently run by leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood. Imams there preach what is called "jihad qital," which means physical jihad, and incite violence and hatred against the U.S.

Dar al-Hijrah's ultimate goal, investigators say, is to turn the U.S. into an Islamic state governed by sharia law [emphasis added].

Another D.C.-area mosque, the ADAMS Center, was founded and financed by members of the Muslim Brotherhood, and has been one of the top distributors of Wahhabist anti-Semitic and anti-Christian dogma.

Even with such radical mosques operating in its backyard, the U.S. government has not undertaken its own systematic investigation of U.S. mosques [emphasis added].

In contrast, European Union security officials are analyzing member-state mosques, examining the training and funding sources of imams, in a large-scale project.

Some U.S. lawmakers want the U.S. to conduct its own investigation.

"We have too many mosques in this country," said Rep. Pete King, R-N.Y. "There are too many people who are sympathetic to radical Islam. We should be looking at them more carefully."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57141

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam
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Pa. woman charged with recruiting jihadists online

"PHILADELPHIA – A Pennsylvania woman has been charged with using the Internet to recruit jihadist fighters and help terrorists overseas.

Authorities say the case shows how terror groups are looking to recruit Americans to help carry out their goals.

A federal indictment charges Colleen R. LaRose with agreeing to kill a Swedish citizen on orders from the terrorists and traveling to Europe to carry out the killing. It doesn't say whether the Swede was killed.

U.S. Attorney Michael Levy tells The Associated Press the indictment doesn't link LaRose to any organized terror groups.

The indictment describes LaRose as in her 40s and from Montgomery County, in suburban Philadelphia. LaRose has been in custody since Oct. 15. She was in court the next day but didn't enter a plea.

Telephone calls placed Tuesday to her federal public defenders haven't been returned.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. "

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 Post subject: Geert Wilders Warning to America
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I agree that the charges against Geert are absurd and in violation of his natural rights, but who can miss the irony as he wants to stop a particular religious group from entering his country, regardless if they have assimilated into his “Judeo-Christian Culture” or not. I think he overstates his case and believe his audience is about as thoughtful as Hitler’s, which may speak about Muslims chances of converting Europeans, except these folks prefer a mindless dogma based on ethnicity (in the guise of Judeo-Christian) rather then the mindless dogma behind those Muslims who attempt to impose Sharia law on others.

Even though culture never “begins” and is always changing independent of its origin, many so called “pagan” rituals were assimilated into Christian Europe, but Geert claims that Europe derives its culture only from Judaism and Christianity. Under a similar kind of revisionism we should also claim that Christianity was fundamental to outlawing slavery, which it was, minus the many non-Christian abolitionists and -1500 years where Christianity actually fueled slavery ( which was read into the “bible”). A similar type of hyperbolic rhetoric is used by the right wing talk show hosts, particularly Dennis Prager who claims that the US was, is, and should remain, a Judeo-Christian nation. He should remember that Christianity was a reformation of Judaism and that the American pilgrims were, for the most part, Christian reformists who later gave way to those who would completely destroy the culture of the native Americans. Also there was nothing particularly religious about the Revolutionary war, a war which most people consider to be the founding point of the US.

Geert claims that the Israeli army is similar to the American army that (helped greatly) liberate Europe. I don’t know about that but it sounds great with the patriotic ww2 music playing in the background! From what I can make out his main theme is something like ‘they don’t allow us to do such and such, so why should we let them do such and such' I know this may be oversimplifying his case but I d obelieve that he goes way overboard. Anyone else?


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Dan, I don't think I could possibly disagree with you more. Aside from some clear biases towards the Judio-Xian faiths, everything he said in the above two videos is completely accurate. You seem oblivious to what is happening throughout European countries as well as Australia, Canada, America and other western countries as well as the UN regarding Islam/Muslim demands for special treatment & privileges, power and control. I would highly recommend that you get familiar with it if this subject interests you. Islam is a totalitarian ideology like communism and fascism. Islam wants to rule over every aspect of society and every part of a persons life. It is the opposite of democracy and freedom. People who don't take their liberties for granted do not want Islam in their neighborhoods. The Judio-Xian faiths are not totalitarian ideologies and no longer compare to Islam today as they once did.

The video below was made while Geert was in trial so it's not new but it does give a view of what not only Geert was dealing with and still is but what the rest of us who reject Islam will eventually have to deal with if Islam remains on its path toward dominion unchallenged.



http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell

Geert Wilders's "Fitna: The Movie"

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"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

-- Omar M. Ahmad, founder of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam
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Dear freethinker22,


Thanks for the reply.

First I would ask you who's "freedom" has been taken, the absurd charges against Geert are not being brought by Muslims rather a European court. You may claim that this court is being pressured by Islam and if that is so why are you trying to protect such a feeble institution as this European court?

I do believe your complaint is that Muslims are trying to import their Islamic culture/law over here and in Europe, but as far as I can see there is nothing about culture in any of our governing documents, and I do not know what this has to do with your "freedoms". Geert, or his video, brings up how Muslim students at Harvard fought for their own locker room, or restrooms. If I am not mistaken the reason given was because they wanted to wash their feet as is their custom and if they won their case in court it was by the same system that you want to protect. As long as it cost you no money to build a new locker room what do you care? I think it is crazy to expect society to give into every little group who wants special treatment, at the same time we are called to be mindful and respect the beliefs of minorities. If I was Muslim I might also want a lifestyle suited to best practice my religion, again your grievance is with what you call our "democracy" which seems to give way only to select religions.

I 100% agree with you that no one should infringe on the rights of another, but I question just how much of a cultural threat Muslim's pose to so called "American culture" and question even more how they are infringing on the individual or collective rights of others.

I know that you do not fully equate Christianity with Islam, but are you forgetting that currently we have our own religious biases in favor of Christianity in this great "democracy" you speak of; you claim that Christianity is not as fanatical as Islam, but who is on top and who has the bigger weapons? This is not meant to defend the radical Muslims rather to say that murded is murder, no matter if the murdered wears a suit or is dressed up like a ninja. How many non-Christians have been elected to serve the highest office in this Republic? And this is the nation you want to defend?

Also, just as we distinguish liberal from fundamentalist Christians we should also recognize the vast number of Muslims who have taken only what is good from their faith, and, ignorantly or not, rejected any call to violence from the Koran. I have known Muslims like this just as I know Christians who laugh at John 3:16, let us not paint everyone with a broad brush by saying that "Islam wants this, or that"


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Let me ask you a simple question. Do you side with Hitler and the Nazi's too? Do you wish the Nazi's would've won the war? If not, why not?






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 Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam
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Although I believe Nazi crimes to have been greatly exaggerated, no I do not support that Nazi party, nor any other party, so no I do not wish that they won the war. Why? Because, like the fanatical Muslims, they were a bunch of criminals. But your attempted analogy falls short as there is a difference between preaching hate (the charge against Geert) and acting on it. I believe those Muslims guilty of murder should not be put to death, rather live a long life of agony, which is perfectly accepted in our PENIAL system, at the same time do you hold that we should not have open trials? Or would you prefer the one size fits all courts, the same which tried the Nazi's?

You neglected to answer my previous question about your freedom in jeopardy.

Do you believe that terrorists should be tried in an open court, or would you change Jefferson's words from "All men are created equal" to "All within the 13 states are created =?"

Also, where was Geerts great Judeo-Christian culture when Europe needed it the most?


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My analogy has not fallen short, quite the opposite:
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2010.03.13 (Kandahar, Afghanistan) - About thirty innocent people are incinerated by a series of paradise-seeking suicide bombers

2010.03.13 (Mingora, Pakistan) - Thirteen people at a courthouse are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber pulling a rickshaw.

2010.03.12 (Zoubaa, Iraq) - Freedom fighters kill a young boy outside of a policeman's home.

2010.03.12 (Yala, Thailand) - A respected police chief is murdered by Islamic bombers six months short of retirement.

2010.03.12 (Marsa Matruh, Egypt) - Twenty-three Christians are injured when a Muslim mob attacks their community after rumors of a church construction.

2010.03.12 (Srinagar, India) - A civilian standing outside a mosque is murdered by a Mujahideen sniper.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

Not to mention the other nearly 15,000 terrorist attacks worldwide just since 9-11. Never mind the 270 million killed in the name of Islam since its creation.
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"where was Geerts great Judeo-Christian culture when Europe needed it the most?"

That is another distraction from the issues at hand. Geert clearly would prefer Judio-Xian cultures but that's not what this is about. Geert is fighting back against the complete take-over of his country by Islamists who plan to turn his country into another Islamic state. Which is their intended goal for every other country they migrate to. They have spoken out many times publicly on video about it for years now. They aren't even trying to make a secret of it.

So, why do you hate the west and prefer an Islamic fascist ideology that openly plans to dominate the world and force sharia law on everyone?

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 Post subject: Re: The Truth About Islam
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Freethinkaluva22,

Talk about distraction, you will not answer a question I made several posts ago, and since then I have asked other questions after answering your questions, but still you go posting your selected propaganda, much of it containing bits of truth.

Let me ask another question that I believe that you will also avoid. Should we hold the whole Muslim world responsible for only few suicidal murderers? Perhaps we should punish their families? Or should we treat the kamikazes like criminals and search for conspirators through lawful means? The last option seems like the only just way to search for retribution. Of course there are many problems with the last option but who said justice was easy? In its rawest form we have to cultures/religions(as Geert hints to) clashing, both claiming "pre-emptive" powers, the small guy resorts to asymmetrical tactics while the big dog spends money on the offense and propaganda asserting a higher moral authority. At this many reasonable people would overlook this view as overly simplistic, apologetic, and not in accordance with the facts, but if this perception exists on both sides among the mindless warriors, courageous though they are, this perception manifests as bits of reality. Take for instance those Pakistani terrorists from Kashmir who struck Bombay (by way of the bay) those ignorant fools were slaves to a particular type of God ideology by which more cowardly and educated political persons gets brave fools to lash out in the name of God. You may claim, "surely we do not use similar tactics". and to answer this we have Iraq, in which I assure you that if we had a drafted army many more would have questioned recklessly dropping bombs. But you may also remember that when we had drafted soldiers we also got into needless wars and killings (nam). You may say, "but we did not go into Iraq for God" and in this case God paralleled to the higher morality held against communism or according to Bush "Those who may use a nuke or chemicals (Iraq)" but also God is so intertwined in our culture the concept is subtle and exists in select places, like on our money and in the phrase "God-country-corps" etc..


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