Interesting slant on this controversial story by Jeffrey Goldberg, who reports that, at a memorial service for beheaded Jewish journalist Daniel Pearl, "Ground Zero mosque" imam Feisal Abdul Rauf declared: "I am a Jew." Goldberg notes that "any Muslim imam who stands before a Jewish congregation and says, 'I am a Jew,' is placing his life in danger." Naturally, Rauf would have to fear fellow members of his own "religion of peace,"™ whom Goldberg is suggesting would kill him for saying such a thing.
(But let's build more barracks for the soldiers of Allah: "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers." --Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan)
Some might point out that the Koran is significantly based on the Bible and that Islamic/sharia law is basically Mosaic law, especially as found in Deuteronomy, so of course Rauf is a Jew. As Rauf himself says, "At the core of Shariah law are God's commandments, revealed in the Old Testament and revised in the New Testament and the Quran."
And as the Wiki article "Islam and Judaism" states:
The relationship between Islam and Judaism is a special and close one. The two religions share similar values, and Islam incorporates Jewish history as a part of its own. Muslims regard the Children of Israel as a central religious concept in Islam. Moses is mentioned in the Holy Qur’an more than any other prophet. Jews in turn see Muslims as prefect [sic] monotheists and as adherents of the Seven Laws of Noah. Thus according to Judaism, Muslims are seen as righteous people of God. The historical interaction of Judaism and Islam started in the 7th century AD with the origin and spread of Islam in the Arabian peninsula.
Because Islam has its foundation in Judaism and share a common origin in the Middle East through Abraham, both are considered Abrahamic religions. There are many shared aspects between Judaism and Islam; Islam is similar to Judaism in its fundamental religious outlook, structure, jurisprudence and practice...
Some excerpts from Goldberg's article:
'Ground Zero' Imam: 'I Am a Jew, I Have Always Been One'
The right-wing campaign against the so-called "Ground Zero mosque" includes vicious personal attacks on the Muslim cleric who leads the Cordoba Initiative, the organization behind the plan. I know Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, and I know him to be a moderate, forward-leaning Muslim -- yes, it is true he has said things with which I disagree, but I have never expected him to function as a member of the Zionist Organization of America.
In 2003, Imam Rauf was invited to speak at a memorial service for Daniel Pearl, the journalist murdered by Islamist terrorists in Pakistan. The service was held at B'nai Jeshurun, a prominent synagogue in Manhattan, and in the audience was Judea Pearl, Daniel Pearl's father. In his remarks, Rauf identified absolutely with Pearl, and identified himself absolutely with the ethical tradition of Judaism. "I am a Jew," he said.
There are those who would argue that these represent mere words, chosen carefully to appease a potentially suspicious audience. I would argue something different: That any Muslim imam who stands before a Jewish congregation and says, "I am a Jew," is placing his life in danger. Remember, Islamists hate the people they consider apostates even more than they hate Christians and Jews. In other words, the man many commentators on the right assert is a terrorist-sympathizer placed himself in mortal peril in order to identify himself with Christians and Jews, and specifically with the most famous Jewish victim of Islamism....
Further Reading
Rauf's Dawa from the World Trade Center Rubble: Meet the Ground Zero Mosque imam's Muslim Brotherhood friends
Imam Feisal Rauf: What Shariah Law Is All About
Islam and Judaism
Meet the 'Ground Zero mosque' imam
My Meetings With the Man Behind the Mosque
"The Prophet said: Judgment Day will not come until you fight the Jews and kill them. The Jews will hide behind stones and trees, and the stones and tree will call: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him except for the Gharqad tree, which is the tree of the Jews. I have heard that they are planting many of these trees now."
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|2010-08-20 22:00:23 GeneYes like many have always said you can't "can not" slide a piece of paper between them. Just be careful its not monetary note, or passing it in front of them might mean you'll lose your arm in the fight between the religious branches of control, over it "their" GOD money! And fascism is the name of the game no matter the branch of con-troll, religion, political, science, or monetary "which is pulling all the strings for now at least" If you can hear and see everything has been laid out in front of you "you, everyone who believes the lies I.E. you do not control yourself and have no destiny but what is given you by control" just ignore it and keep pushing it all forward I.E. in front of you never aside as should be done with them!
Problem is Jews do not exist as race or religion, JEWES" you-ways" however are very much a real problem. The people confused into believing they are, miss out on the truth. Staying stuck in a lie because it has become comfortable or profitable is leading to very bad ends for many! We will never get back what is gone like this. Calling yourself something told to you, you are/must"important for whom?" be, and forgetting your heritage and honor only hurts you more.
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|2010-08-20 23:12:57 J. C. - On being JewishThanks to Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, the Arab-Israeli problme, or more specifically, the Palestinian-Israeli problem can now be easily solved. All that's needed is for the Palestinians to formally convert to Judaism, and, thanks to Rauf, that should not pose a problem, then they could all instantly become Israeli citizens under the Law of Return and, voila, the end of the conflict with a One-State Solution!
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|2010-08-20 18:57:02 AnonymousThis is a bit off topic but important:
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS DEFENDING THE RIGHTS OF ALL AMERICANS TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
HE IS SUPPORTING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
SOME DON'T BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION:
"The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper."
~ George W. Bush 2005 Capitol Hill Blue
ATTENTION FASCISTS:
INTELLIGENT AMERICANS ARE AWARE OF YOUR ATTEMPTS TO SEIZE POWER AGAIN. WE ARE NOT HAVING IT.
WE WILL FIGHT FOR FREEDOM. EVEN YOURS. LET THOSE REPUBLICANS WHOM ARE WILLING TO SURRENDER THEIR RIGHT TO 'FREEDOM OF RELIGION' PUT THEIR COMMENTS HERE AND SIGN THEIR NAMES AS BEING AGAINST 'FREEDOM OF RELIGION' AND OBAMA FOR SUPPORTING IT.
6 Questions for Republicans Who Oppose a Mosque in Lower
Manhattan http://firedoglake.com/2010/08/15/6-questions-for-republicans-who-o...
'Spreading falsehoods'
'The White House attributed the mistaken beliefs about Mr Obama's religion to a "misinformation campaign" pursued by his political opponents.
"While the president has been diligent and personally committed to his own Christian faith, there's certainly folks who are intent on spreading falsehoods about the president and his values and beliefs," White House faith adviser Joshua DuBois told AFP news agency.'
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|2010-08-20 19:06:37 Acharya SSo, you support the building of a mosque by a sharia law enthusiast who worked for the Council on Foreign Relat... and who has been involved with the Muslim Brotherhood? The same MB whose stated goal is to destroy the "miserable house" of America from within?
A mosque that will be built with $100 million in funding from who-knows-where? To further understanding of a religion that follows a holy book which states:
"He that chooses a religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost."
Quran 3:85, "The Imrans"
"God's curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God's own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God's most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers."
Quran 2:89-2:90, "The Cow"
"I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers."
Quran 8:12, "The Spoils"
"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them."
Quran 9:5; "Repentance"
"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate."
Quran 9:73, "Repentance"
"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed with rods of iron."
"Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'"
Quran 22:19-20, "The Pilgrimage"
"Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient."
Quran 4:34, "Women"
"Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found, then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses..."
Quran 2:282
You are pushing the agenda of a religion that follows a man who, according to the hadiths, murdered hundreds, kidnapped sex slaves, "thighed" a six-year-old girl and began having intercourse with her when she was nine?
Aisha and Mohammed
"...As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed his [male] member between her thighs and massaged it softly, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers."
Sorry, but I am not a supporter of FASCISTIC intolerant cults that follow misogynists, murderers and child rapists.
Nor do I believe it is anyone's Constitutional right to build edifices to spread misogyny, murderous intent and pedophilia. And the last time I looked, many aspects of sharia law are AGAINST the U.S. Constitution, which means that anyone stumping for it would be anti-Constitutional. This imam is a pusher of sharia law; he is therefore anti-Constitutional.
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|2010-08-21 00:22:58 Jeff HansenThis should be too stupid to require comment but given our adherence to the PC party line & consequent inability to think at all it'll probably be taken seriously.
Gee, heeza jew...well that fixes everything...'cuz I thought he was wona those mean ole' brown aye-rab muslims that blows up an' awl that...
Is that what anyone really thinks is going on here? Even Islamic robots can't be that stupid & still remember to breathe.
We need to stop talking like tame, housebroken little self-hating PC liberals & start talking like adults used to.
This is simple. Islamic murderers killed thousands of Americans on that spot & justified doing so by quoting muslim holy scripture. The most offensive thing most of us could imagine building on that site is a freaking mosque. This is common sense if you haven't been brainwashed into doing some sort of PC calculus to determine your stance on an issue instead of thinking.
The questions should be more like: "Why are you ignoring the opinion of the overwhelming majority of this country's wishes on this emotional issue?"...
"Why this exact spot instead of anywhere else?"...
"How can you seriously not expect massive outrage at this idiotic, offensive move?"...
"Would you be offended if Christian Americans bombed Mecca & then wanted to build a church or plant a flag on the site?"...
And this was funny:Quote:the right-wing campaign against the so-called "Ground Zero mosque"
This from members of the most conservative (think 6th century), sexist, violent, freedom hating religion out there - a dogma that demands that everyone be enslaved to religious law. These clowns make Pat Robertson look like Howard Zinn. And they call folks offended by their arrogance "right wing"?
Well, they do call Islam a "religion of peace" too, don't they?
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|2010-08-22 02:09:09 AnonymousFree thinkers invented calculus to express themselves in ways they otherwise could not. It is a language too. As a free thinker you should know this. Free thinkers used it to land on the moon. Calculus enhances peoples ability to do things. It does not confine them as you say, but liberates them. Free thinking is wonderful when people do not try to confine it. PC Calculus is how we communicate on the Internet using protocols. Please give it a thought a little and see how confined we would be without PC calculus.
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|2010-08-22 18:14:00 AnonymousHere is an excerpt from a book published by Prentice -Hall for Heathkit/Zenith Educational Systems titled Electronic Communications, a step by step introduction.
Quote"
Throughout time, the one thing that has distinguished humans from other animals is their ability to exchange ideas and other information. That is, humans can communicate. It is this capability that has played perhaps the biggest part in the development of civilization. In fact, as our civilization continues to grow, so must our communications capacity. the two are intertwined.
"Unquote.
Perhaps you should not be so harsh on PC calculus?
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|2010-08-21 09:27:31 Bob - Erdogan and the quoteThe quote in the above:... "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers."... --Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan.
Those are not his words so let's be fair to Mr Erdogan.
This is a known poem he recited for which he got 10 months in jail, although he didn't serve a day.
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|2010-08-21 15:52:51 Acharya SThank you. Whether or not he originated those words, Erdogan spoke the obvious - he probably got the judgment because he exposed the truth against the will of the Brotherhood.
And I don't think it's fair to my secular Turkish friends to cut him any slack at all, as he tightens the Islamist noose around their necks.
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|2010-08-22 06:03:25 Syrian Nationalist Party - Daniel Pearl was murdered to silence himIt is doubful that Daniel Pearl was beheaded by Moslems it is more likely by Pakistan MOSLEM ISI and JudeoChristian CIA operatives to silence him and cover up the evidences he found and collected. The videos purpoted to show his death were not made by Native Arab Speaker, nor genuine Moslem, because it is full of cliche that is not normally used by genuine Moslem persons. Most likely ISI Pakistanis Moslems or Israli Mossad with Defense Language Institute grad help. Sort of like fake Alqaida and Bin laden tapes that western intelligence and media always report about.
Do more search you may find some info that is not scrubbed clean from the internet and replaced by paid for disinfo.
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