Canadian Muslim professor to government: No more Muslim immigration

This brave man, Dr. Salim Mansur, is a member of the Muslim Canadian Congress, along with the Muslim professor who told Muslims not to bring their primitive ways to the West. Below is Mansur’s recent speech before the Canadian House of Commons. Follow the link for commentary on the speech, which apparently was not well received by the same elite who are flooding Western countries with Third World immigrants.

Close the borders to Muslim immigrants: Salim Mansur’s House of Commons testimony

Honourable Members,

Many thanks for inviting me to share my thoughts with this Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration. I appear before you as a common citizen deeply apprehensive and concerned about the drift of our country as it changes due to the rate of immigration that is without precedent among any of the advanced liberal democracies of the West. My expertise, or to the extent my expertise is recognized by this Committee for which I have been invited to appear before you, is that of a professional academic, a researcher, writer, author and public intellectual of some recognition in this great country of ours, and I am both proud and humbled to come before you as an unhyphenated Canadian.

Let me state right at the outset, before I share with you my perspective on immigration, I support all measures under consideration that modern technology provides for in securing our borders, monitoring those who seek to gain entry into Canada, those who arrive here without proper documentation and claim refugee status, and those in legions outside of Canada who want to come here as immigrants. I believe it is a no-brainer to work towards a more secure Canada, and to implement smart cards, biometric systems, and other tools available now or will be in the future for the purpose of keeping Canada and Canadians secure from those who would do us harm. I have no doubt on this matter that were we to have the thoughts of our founding fathers inform us, and those remarkable leaders who have come after them such as Laurier and King, Pearson and Trudeau, Knowles and Douglas, they would remind us that a constitution agreed upon by a free people to provide for, as John A. Macdonald put it, “peace, order and good government” is not a suicide-pact.

In the small amount of time I have before you I want to stress upon the first principle behind the Immigration policy as it has evolved since the centennial year and presently stand. Needless to remark that Canada is an immigrant country, and our history tells us as we should know it has been immigrants from Europe over the past several centuries that built this country. On the whole they built it well and, indeed, so well that Canada has come to be an eagerly sought country for people from around the world as I did. But, and here is the point, at some stage of Canada’s historical development since at least 1867 those who built Canada in the early years of its history could have reached an agreement to close the door to further immigration. They did not. They believed the strength of their country would be maintained through a judicious policy of accepting new immigrants from Europe. But the key point here I want to emphasize, and I have written about this at length in the public media, is they all believed that immigration judiciously and carefully managed (I emphasize manage) in terms of numbers and source origin of immigrants should be such that the nature of Canada as a liberal democracy is not undermined.

It is numbers and the nature of numbers that matters and, given the nature of things, determines how existing arrangements are secured or undermined. Since the open door immigration policy was instituted around the time of Canada’s centennial year, the nature of immigration into Canada started to change from what had been the pattern since before 1867 to around 1960. During the past fifty years immigration from outside of Europe, from what is generally designated the Third World, has rapidly increased in proportion to those immigrants originating in Europe. Furthermore, given the revolution in transportation with the introduction of wide body trans-continental jetliner that has made mass travel economical and easy the distinction between immigrant and migrant workers has been eliminated. This means, and it is not simply in reference to ethnicity, that Canada is rapidly changing culturally in ways our political elite, media elite and academic elite do not want to discuss. But the fact that this is not discussed, or driven under the carpet, does not mean the public is not keenly aware of how much the country has changed in great measure in a relatively short period, and if this pattern continues for another few decades there is the likelihood that Canada will have changed irrevocably, and not necessarily for the better in terms of its political tradition as a liberal democracy.

So in terms of first principle, we need our governing institutions and those individuals we, as Canadians, send to them to represent us, to boldly re-examine our existing immigration policy and re-think it in terms of what it represents and how it will affect the well-being of Canada in the years to come. I do not need to remind you that any set of policy, however benign or good the intent is behind the making of such policy, is riddled with unintended consequences. History is a paradox. What you intend is not how things turn out in the long run, and not even in the short term. Pick any example you want, and think it through and see for yourself the paradoxical nature of history and how it surprises us by confounding our expectations.

I have at hand the recent publication of Statistics Canada, Projections of the Diversity of the Canadian Population: 2006 to 2031. In other words, this projection affects me now and what remains of my life, but more importantly affects my children, my students, my friends and neighbours in their life time. Your views, as our representatives, are critical and will affect all of us, and you will be responsible in terms of our history, if you take your place in these hallowed halls with the seriousness it demands, for the good and the bad that come out of your decisions.

Let me quickly, time permitting, point out from this Statistics Canada publication the following:

Given the nature of our immigration policy since the 1960s, the foreign born population is growing about 4 times faster than the rest of the population; consequently, in 2031 there will be between 9.8 million and 12.5 million foreign-born persons compared to 6.5 million in 2006, and the corresponding number in 1981 was 3.8 million.

According to Statistics Canada projection, the population estimated for 2031 will be around 45 million of which 32 per cent, or around 14.5 million people will be foreign-born.

One more interesting, and yet critical, figure is the cultural/religious make up of Canada in 2031. The fastest growth, according to the report, is “the Muslim population… with its numbers tripling during this period. This increase is mainly due to two factors: the composition of immigration… and higher fertility than for other groups.” The figures are for Muslims in 2006 at around 900,000 constituting 2.7 per cent of the population, and rising to in 2031 to around 3.3 million constituting 7.3 per cent of the population.

If the levels of immigration in Canada is being maintained, and defended, on the basis of the needs to deal with the problems of Canadian society in terms of an aging population, fertility rates among Canadian women, skilled labour requirement and maintaining a growth-level for the population consistent with the growth of the economy, then this policy needs to be seriously re-evaluated.

We cannot fix the social problems of the Canadian society by an open immigration policy that adds to the numbers at a rate that puts into question the absorptive capacity of the country not only in economic terms but also, if not more importantly, in cultural and social terms and what this does to our political arrangements as a liberal democracy.

The March 2012 Herbert Grubel and Patrick Grady study for the Fraser Institute on Immigration and Refugee Policy should end once and for all the naivety that immigrants add in the short and medium term to economic gains for the country. Indeed, the cost-benefit analysis the Grubel-Grady study provides, based on government sources and revenue Canada numbers, indicates immigrants are a net cost to the rest of the society. “The fiscal burden imposed by the average recent immigrants,” Grubel and Grady write, “is $6,000, which for all immigrants is a total between $16 billion and $23 billion per year.” This is unfair, unsustainable, and disruptive to the Canadian society when set against the demands of Canadians for their needs, especially in distressing economic times as we have been witnessing since 2008.

The flow of immigration into Canada from around the world, and in particular the flow from Muslim countries, means a pouring in of numbers into a liberal society of people from cultures at best non-liberal. But we know through our studies and observations that the illiberal mix of cultures poses one of the greatest dilemmas and an unprecedented challenge to liberal societies, such as ours, when there is no demand placed on immigrants any longer to assimilate into the founding liberal values of the country to which they have immigrated to and, instead, by a misguided and thoroughly wrong-headed policy of multiculturalism encourage the opposite. It is no wonder that recently the German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the British Prime Minister David Cameron, among other European leaders and a growing body of intellectuals, have spoken out in public against multiculturalism and the need to push it back, even repeal it.

I have written a book on the wrong headed policy of multiculturalism published recently under the title Delectable Lie: a liberal repudiation of multiculturalism. Time forbids me to discuss this matter at any length, but I would surely hope members of this Committee might take the time and read my book even if they disagree with me. Here I want to leave you in your deliberations to reflect upon the following situation of a paradoxical nature:

We may want to continue with a level of immigration into Canada annually that is about the same as it is at present; i.e. somewhere in the vicinity of 300,000 immigrants, refugee claimants, and students and workers under visa provision entering Canada.

We cannot, however, continue with such an in-flow of immigrants under the present arrangement of the official policy of multiculturalism based on the premise all cultures are equal when this is untrue, and that this policy is a severe, perhaps even a lethal, test for a liberal democracy such as ours.

This means we cannot simultaneously continue with both, the existing level of immigration and official multiculturalism, as they together endanger greatly our liberal democratic traditions.

If we persist we will severely undermine our liberal democracy or what remains of it, compromise the foundation of individual freedom by accommodating group rights, and bequeath to our children and unborn generations a political situation fraught with explosive potential for ethnic violence the sort of which we have seen in Europe as in the riots in the ban lieu or suburbs of Paris and other metropolitan centres.

In conclusion, I want to emphasize we need to consider lowering the number of immigrants entering into Canada until we have had a serious debate among Canadians on this matter. We should not allow bureaucratic inertia determining not only the policy, but the existing level of immigrant numbers and source origin that Canada brings in annually. We have the precedent of how we selectively closed immigration from the Soviet bloc countries during the Cold War years, and we need to consider doing the same in terms of immigration from Muslim countries for a period of time given how disruptive the cultural baggage of illiberal values is brought in as a result. We are, in other words, stoking the fuel of much unrest in our country as we have witnessed of late in Europe. And lest any member wants to instruct me that my views are in any way politically incorrect or worse, I would like members to note I come before you as a practicing Muslim who knows out of experience from the inside how volatile, how disruptive, how violent, how misogynistic is the culture of Islam today and has been during my lifetime, and how greatly it threatens our liberal democracy that I cherish since I know what is its opposite.

Thank you.

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  1. This land is my land, this land is my land
    I love it when people write the line into their const that it is not a “suicide-pact”. And as usual they do this right after praising the people who never wrote that in their const.

    The tradition of suggesting words, or writing words into the mouth of previous leaders ever continues.

    Chances are that if these Mulims leave the Islamic world they may also partly leave some of their “Islamic”.

    Also, I have a feeling that the professor, or “public intellectual”, is trying to totally seperate “Muslims” from the culture of “Islam”. I doubt that he would be surprised to learn that many of those things which he may find wrong with Islam is sourced in Muslim thought.

    f**k Canada, USA and all countries up the ass with the planet earth. Nationality is so religion.

    1. I’m a retired U.S. army master sergeant and I served in four different Islamic interpretations of, I kid you not, *Hell* *on* *Earth*. Dr. Mansur is exactly right. The various western nations are *absolutely* *insane* to allow these people in, and in large numbers. No, not all Muslims are quote-unquote bad but even the so-called moderates have beliefs that range from deeply disturbing to downright *hair-raising*. Islamic culture is the very antitheses of Western Civilization.

      An analogy: I have a jar containing 1,000 jellybeans. Fifty of them contain cyanide but there is no way to tell which ones they are. Okay, how many do you want?

  2. Waa?
    Practicing Muslim ? Is this statement made in earnest? If he is a practicing Muslim , then what form ? I thought Muslim’s jihadist mission was total subjugation of all the world? What tactic is he using? Subterfuge? Weird ,, someone educate please? – peace

    1. I always wonder …
      Why someone with a functioning brain would claim to be a Muslim of any sort. Well, at least he’s saying what needs to be said … I think.

  3. I remember …
    When the concept of “multiculturalism” first began to be bantered about. Where I was in the US, it was about little more than blacks not being ashamed of being black and hating themselves for it, everyone being nice to each other, learning from each other and not denigrating someone simply because they weren’t white. OK, not bad, let’s all get along, be civil to each other and progress. We were mostly sick of George Wallace, fire hoses and police dogs anyway.

    But, it suddenly became a “dictate”, an “order”, an Orwellian “mandate” … you MUST do this or be punished. You can say “Wow, your culture is cool!”, but you can’t say “Wow, your culture sucks!”. What was supposed to be a nice little idea, suddenly became poisonous and filled with fear inducing, not-so-implied threats. I remember also that it seemed to happen almost overnight. One day it was a happy little idea, the next, we were thinking WTF just happened?

    And, now we have the cute little Orwellian world we have, where some politically correct, sanctimonious twit is on every street corner, ready to publicly chastise those who don’t take their daily dose of pc/mc Soma and measure up adequately on the multiculturalism scale. Welcome to insanity.

    1. Wow …
      Bad first sentence. I’ll try to proof read my stuff a little better.

      1. The other sentences are not that great either I’m afraid to say old bean

    2. Congratulations for your clear statement. Just the same absurd we’re facing today in Brazil. We must fight that madness or civilization will be lost!

    3. Very well said and thank you.

  4. Also …
    The multiculturalism (I think) we envisioned, though maybe we were naive of the ways of the world, was predicated on and included a given level of intelligence, compassion, education, civility, mutual interest & trust, give and take, etc. That is, we could assume the other party would be safe and the other party could assume that we’d be safe. It did not include the idea of one culture running over or taking over another. It did not include acceptance of violence, idiocy, cultural suicide, imposition of archaic law and submission to faux authority. I’d remember and celebrate my Scotish, Irish, Dutch, British heritage and someone else could remember and celebrate their whatever heritage, but we’d both be first and foremost, Americans. It assumed that I could go to a black friend’s house and he could teach me a soul food recipe and I could teach him a white guy’s recipe and we could both go away more knowledgeable, happier, better friends and nobody would be offended. But, now, I’m sure someone will read this and think or say “That guy said ‘soul food’. And, he said it in the context of talking about a black guy. That’s racist. He’s evil and should be punished.” Hey, tell me I’m wrong. I see it every f’ing day. And, that is exactly part of the failure of multiculturalism. It was never supposed to be an industry and it was never supposed to be cultural suicide.

  5. Dear Pray Hard,

    I don’t know how you feel about “Uncle Muhammed” above, but I agree with allot of what you write. It seems as though the original American creed was something like, “with all due respect, you leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone” and with little or no change to the original governing documents it appears to have turned into “you must treat me accordingly, and vice- versa”. At the same time who could deny that all of the social engineering enacted by the civil rights act forced a lot of people to join the civilized world.

    I think allot of “blacks” are hypersensitive to many words mainly because they have not, as a whole, generally achieved the status that many whites and non-whites have.

    A little while back the Vice Pres. made a remark about people “being in chains” which offended people—as if “in chains” had not been a classical way of expressing “bondage” from the time of Homer on up through to the 14th cent.

  6. Mohac
    If Dr. Mansur is honest for what he believes in he should immediately leave Canada and go back to calcuta where he comes from. U.S and Canada are the countries established by immigrants. No one has right to judge the immigrants because their religion or culture. In a democratic country , justice works for everyone.

    1. You’re telling this Muslim immigrant that he needs to leave the country, because the country is made up of immigrants?

      That makes no sense at all. Are you a racist Islamophobe, attacking this Muslim immigrant and trying to send him home? 🙁

      No one has a right to judge immigrants? Really? So if a flood of cannibals comes to your neighborhood, you shouldn’t judge them? How about gangs of child rapists ([url]http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1928209[/url])? No problem? Don’t judge them?

      Or people who want to destroy your constitution and enslave you all – just let ’em in and tolerate them? Ah, but that’s what you already are doing, and exactly what this BRAVE MAN is complaining about.

      If you are an immigrant, because Canada is made up of immigrants, but you don’t like what this other immigrant-citizen has to say, perhaps you need to leave the country and stop judging this immigrant.

    2. Made up until the 1960’s of overwhelmingly of EUROPEON CHRISTIANS…..This the birthrite of Canadians …We the people of Europeon Anscstry have the right as the inheritors of the Creators of Canada to decide if ,and what immigrants come into our Homeland ,just like we choose who comes into our homes..
      My question thats never been answered is, who decided to open up Canada to all the Foriegn Races and Cultures, and for what reason?

      1. North America has been filled with European immigrants for centuries because we killed and relocated the natives, and then made miserable those people who came later (or were stolen). Acceptance of diversity and not submitting tribalism (essential millennia ago but destructive now) hasn’t been an easy transition, and some people still struggle with the concept, and yet, it still happened. The one thing that stifles such a change is isolation.

        The worst thing we could do is isolate ourselves. It is only through continued contact that the perception of one’s tribe is changed. If Muslims are made to feel unwelcome and hated, they will segregate themselves and their children will be more likely to hold the same perspective. Likewise, if we react to Muslims with fear and anger, we will enforce religious-based tribalism as well.

        The author states that we couldn’t predict multiculturalism and that it’s a great failure, but the failure is not with multiculturalism. It’s the idea that being offended is always a result of being offensive, and that the right to not hear or see something is greater than the freedom of expression.

        Multiculturalism is even more important now than it was 100 years ago, because our world is so much more connected. Racism hasn’t been eradicated (nor will it likely ever be unfortunately) but it has been reduced dramatically over the past few generations. Similarly, perhaps the recent Muslim immigrants are unlikely to change, but provided they aren’t driven to isolation, their children will be more of a cultural hybrid.

        It was said in the late 1800’s that it was impossible for the Chinese, regardless of birth country, to ever assimilate into the US; they were “uncivilized” by nature. That statement today appears not only blatantly racist but hysterical, hyperbolic and an obviously failed prediction, and as the past is usually a good indicator of the future, I think people will look back at these dire predictions one day and wonder how it was that minor differences were so terrifying, they completely overshadowed our far more numerous similarities.

  7. Here is the study referenced
    http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/91-551-x/91-551-x2010001-eng.htm

    “It is important to note that the 2006 Census, on which these projections are based, had no question on religious denomination. The projections for this variable reflecting ethnocultural diversity were therefore based on the 2001 Census (see Box 1). Since they are based on less recent data, the analysis of the results from the projections on religious denomination should be interpreted with caution.”

    I don’t see why Muslim immigrants are singled out, since the study projects much immigration from China and the Philippines.

    Also note this:
    ” the proportion of Canadians reporting no religion could increase significantly over the coming years, going from 5.7 million in 2006 to a level ranging between 8.2 million and 9.4 million in 2031, depending on the scenario. An estimated 17% of the population had no religion in 2006; this proportion could rise to 21% in 2031. In 1981, 1.8 million persons, or 7% of the population, did not report a religious denomination. The main factors underlying this increase are mobility between religions, which favoured this group in the scenarios selected, and the immigration of persons reporting no religion (in many cases Chinese).”

    There is no reason to presume that descendants of Muslim immigrants will retain the religion of their forbears. The growth of the non-religious has increased during the years of high immigration. I don’t think that Muslim people are immune to losing their religion. Also, the majority of Muslims here now are moderate. I don’t expect that the radical minority will increase significantly.

    1. Thanks for posting that information and link.

      It’s pretty easy to see why Muslims are singled out, if one pays attention to the news and knows Islamic doctrines. The Muslim doctor Mansur’s message itself is clear enough as to why Muslims should be singled out.

      It is not always the case that religious fanatics will lose their ardor simply because they’ve migrated to a free land – in fact, many do not but continue to insist upon the “old ways.” That’s exactly why Mansur is complaining. If all Muslims were living as he and the others in the Muslim Canadian Congress, he would not need to speak out.

      Fortunately for us, he and those other fine individuals at the MCC are speaking out.

      1. Of course recent immigrants haven’t radically changed their religious or cultural ideas. That takes time and the willingness to coexist as peaceably as possible in the meantime. Exposure to more liberal concepts and religious interpretations is the catalyst for change, and it rarely happens with first generation immigrants, so while it may seem pointless for what feels like forever, their children are far more likely to be culturally similar to the general population.

        Every new wave of immigration is met with the same doom-and-gloom scenarios, despite the fact that those fears are not only unrealized but forgotten as time progresses. The Chinese and Irish and Italians were all considered so inherently unruly, their very presence was a danger and yet society still stands.

        The way to encourage cultural assimilation is not by fear or force or further isolation, but by openness and patience.

  8. “The way to encourage cultural assimilation is not by fear or force or further isolation, but by openness and patience.”

    Indeed. And that applies to all immigrants to all countries. Th only problem is that extremists of many persuasions do not embrace that objective, seeking instead to alter the culture of the new country to reflect their own prejudices and demands. There is the impasse. While subsequent generations may break away from the stranglehold of certain cultures, to do so often means danger and in some cases the threat of death or its realisation. Such is not acceptable behaviour and practices in Canada.

  9. @kimberlilly…I sure hope you are correct, because the view you take is now the dominant political narrative in the west, and if you are wrong then the eventual destruction of western civilization and its values will likely be the result.
    As I watch the chaotic flood of millions of mostly Islamic men entering Europe at the behest of Angela Merkel and her open borders followers, I can’t help but worry that indeed you and others who think like you, may be wrong, and that our culture will soon be subsumed by a stronger and more dominating group…which would seem to be more in keeping with general trends in the history of human nature and conduct, over the millennia. So, yeah, I am very worried for the west, and the maintenance of our European created democratic liberal values, during this 21st century.

  10. Destroy Islam, forbid anyone from reading their religious book(s) and once you/we have stood up to Islam and the Monkeys that associate themselves with the disease, then we may have a shot at salvaging ourselves as people who are not of that filthy faith. They wreak their shithole countries and they are all on there ways to doing it where ever they go. Since Muslims know they cant beat us at war, their goal is to drain the welfare/social services and health care of the stupid western countries that let them in with open arms. Kid you not, Canada is a haven for terrorists and our Canadian Liberal government is slitting the throats of all working class taxpayers in this country and slapping their faces while doing so by allowing this to continue. Want a better Canada, do not vote for Justin in the next election and vote for the party that stands up to immigration!

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