Can Islamic/sharia law be reformed?

Here is an important discussion involving two ex-extremist Muslim reformers, one still Muslim, Dr. Tawfik Hamid, and the other a Christian convert, Walid Shoebat, along with current “radical” (devout) Islamic supremacist Anjem Choudary, who once again reveals the plot for global Islamic domination and the subjugation of non-Muslims.

The program is hosted by Samar Gorial, a Christian woman at  Aramaic Broadcasting Network who calmly gives Anjem plenty of time to convict himself, while Dr. Hamid confirms the brutality of sharia law, saying that it is “threatening our civilization.” Notice how Choudary has “no problem” with murdering people left and right, for adultery and apostasy, for example. He also remarks, “Hello, Europe, and good bye [to] the rotten civilization of capitalism, democracy and freedom, that’s what I say.” Walid shoebat takes off the gloves and expresses the opinion that it is Islam itself we are up against. This is a fascinating conversation that touches upon many of the most germane issues concerning this subject of global Islamic encroachment.

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  1. Ungodly Religion
    It’s not if Saria Law can be reformed but if world needs Islaam any more? It is primitivem ungodly religion. It makes law Non-muslims how they should be treated and pay religious tax to survive. It is Arabic thought and Saria law is after thought of Arabs based on their own culture and belief. Nothing to do with God. Ban is through UNS. PERIOD.

    1. ISLAM is the perfect religion
      definitely u dont know ISLAM at all. Shariah law is ALLAH rules imposed on human beings, main objective is as deterrent not punishment.

      pls go study about ISLAM before you make silly comment like that.

      1. We [i]have [/i]studied Islam quite thoroughly, and watching this video will confirm even more that Islamic law is a brutal, cruel and unjust system. If you had watched this video, you would have heard Anjem Choudary talk about murdering people for apostasy and adultery, as well as making veiled threats of murdering the two men who are debating him. As the other two speakers know very well, Anjem represents business as usual in the Islamic fundamentalist circles.

        Islam is most certainly NOT the perfect religion, unless you like brutality, cruelty, bigotry, misogyny, enslavement and bloodshed. You are simply repeating like a parrot the things taught to you as a child and that make you feel good about the cruel and hateful system you are mindlessly championing – which is unquestionably a huge THREAT to the rest of us. But Islam’s strengths are not in humanitarianism, and it cares not at all about who it terrorizes.

        It would be a great idea if YOU actually studied the subject – you obviously didn’t even watch this video. Here are some links:

        http://truthbeknown.com/islamquotes.htm ([url]http://truthbeknown.com/islamquotes.htm[/url])
        http://www.thereligionofpeace.com ([url]http://www.thereligionofpeace.com[/url])
        http://www.faithfreedom.org ([url]http://www.faithfreedom.org[/url])
        http://www.islam-watch.org ([url]http://www.islam-watch.org[/url])
        http://www.jihadwatch.org ([url]http://www.jihadwatch.org[/url])
        http://www.theprophetofdoom.org ([url]http://www.theprophetofdoom.org[/url])
        http://occidentalsoapbox.blogspot.com/2008/11/islamic-crusades.html ([url]http://occidentalsoapbox.blogspot.com/2008/11/islamic-crusades.html[/url])
        http://freethoughtnation.com/womens-rights-in-islam.html ([url]http://freethoughtnation.com/womens-rights-in-islam.html[/url])

        For others who will continue to see these erroneous contentions based on the lack of study among Muslims themselves, please avail yourself of this source:

        How to Debate a Muslim ([url]http://sheikyermami.com/2009/06/16/how-to-debate-a-muslim/[/url])

      2. Islamic people do have problems
        Islamic people do have problems but this coverage of Shariah or whatever you call it you are covering is completely unsubstantial and cannot live up to criticism by Islamic intellectuals.

        You should probably erase all your propaganda and recreate something truthful. Muslims have problems but Muslims are not invading and occupying the land of others and murdering civilians. 9-11 and some of the other so-called Muslim terrorist acts cannot compare, even if they were actually in fact Muslims acting, to the acts of invasion and occupation taking place.

        Islam does not need to be reformed, it needs to be studied so stupid people do not call themselves Muslims and act non-Muslim.

        1. Actually it is “ISLAMIC/MUSLIM/JEWISH, ACTUALLY ABRAMIC ” thought pattern, or influence on the west. That has influenced the last 6000-10000yrs of European and American Native top down society! So yes it is in a way a middle eastern seduction of absolute power over all you survey, you are now seeing coming back at you their in the middle east.

          The caucasian once inhabited the fertile crescent along with the “Tibet-type/American Native” of people.It is the out casts of both specie’s that interbred with mongoloid and negroid peoples and became Arab and east Indians. Who then returned and attacked and re-attacked them until they left the areas and abandoned their civilizations there!

          Now you types of people have had the once beautiful and fertile lands, for thousands of years and made desert of them. Because you have chips on your shoulders for being shunned and outcast you turn to more primitive species to inter breed with and create your own race’s/species, and still you are shunned for you ways of thought and action! But you have corrupted us in every way but our species is still here both white and red, so you are not content with what you have now you try and steal our souls and past as well.

          So no you are not viable life you are UN-life sorry for- no I’m not sorry! Our ancestors are watching and they are very disappointed in what they see! Another culling I feel is at hand rather in store for all! With my hope all of those who are not viable to be absorbed and made nil, no more freak show no more slaughter if there is to be a boot stamp upon the earth it will not be from any one born here on this earth at least in the last 30000yrs! Not that they live that long just they have not intermixed and are still “HUMAN”!

        2. The only propaganda I see here is coming from YOU. You seem not to know Islamic history AT ALL, and your comments would probably make the devout Muslims chase you through the streets with swords as you have insulted their manhood and devotion.

          [Muhammad] said, “…fight everyone in the way of God and kill those who disbelieve in God…”

          Ibn Ishaq, [i]The Life of Muhammad[/i], p. 672

          Time to go criticize Muhammad for not being a stupid person who calls himself a Muslim!

    2. RE: Ungodly Religion
      No religion has anything to do with God, therefore they are all equally “ungodly”. Ban them all. PERIOD.

  2. If it could be or was reformed, it wouldn’t be sharia.
    I agree with the second post. Islam is the perfect religion for morons and barbarians.

  3. I totally agree with the last post! I don’t really think it could be reformed.

  4. re: Islamic people do have problems
    [quote name=”Refuge”]….Muslims are not invading and occupying the land of others and murdering civilians. 9-11 and some of the other so-called Muslim terrorist acts cannot compare, even if they were actually in fact Muslims acting, to the acts of invasion and occupation taking place.

    Islam does not need to be reformed, it needs to be studied so stupid people do not call themselves Muslims and act non-Muslim. [/quote]

    You’re a brazen liar. Are you saying muslims didn’t violently invade & occupy most of the lands they now occupy right after the founding of Islam? And what are they fighting over in Kashmir anyway? Blow of steam? Everytime they have the power they invade, kill, & occupy land.

    Ihaq 578 : “Crushing the heads of the infidels and splitting their skulls with sharp swords, we continually thrust and cut at the enemy. Blood gushed from their deep wounds as the battle wore them down. We conquered bearing the Prophet’s fluttering war banner. Our cavalry was submerged in rising dust, and our spears quivered, but by us the Prophet gained victory.”

    Ishaq 587: “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace.”

    Koran 9:5: “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

    Koran 9:112: “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

    Koran 9:29: “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

    Koran 8:39: “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

    Koran 8:39: “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

    Bukhari 52:220: “I have been made victorious with terror”.

    Tabari 9:69: “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us”.

    Religion of peace indeed!

    FYI, nut job, 9-11 wasn’t a “so-called terrorist act”. It was a deliberate, hateful terrorist act against helpless civilians. Not so-called. It was terrorism, the most famous feature of Islam worldwide. Everyone knows it.

    They were all muslims. They did it in the name of Islam. They took pains to make videos & quote the Koran to make this very clear. Bin Ladin bragged about it repeatedly on videos sent to rub it in our faces. So you look real stupid trying to deny all of this.

    Islam will reform. And then it will disappear into history’s dumpster along with all the other murderous ideologies humanity has had to fend off.

  5. sharia kills humans

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